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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#5221 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:36 pm

Dfw has been upgraded to slight risk in the latest spc outlook
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#5222 Postby hamburgerman7070 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:28 pm

I got a question. Mjo is supposed to get into phase 8 then 1 and 2. If that happens, can we be more optimistic or does that not matter at this point, considering its the first time all winter it may do that.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#5223 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:06 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:Dfw has been upgraded to slight risk in the latest spc outlook


Lol, it's been a tough day for SPC, this is back towards to the early morning update after they slowly shifted it north during the day until the slight was pushed up almost to the Red River.

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#5224 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:17 pm

Slipping into phase 8 to 1 is our only hope. As of now it's predicted, but very far out. It's showing it in a VERY strong way at the moment. If that happens, i'd expect it to be very stormy and cold in the lower 48 east of the rockies.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#5225 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:22 pm

hamburgerman7070 wrote:I got a question. Mjo is supposed to get into phase 8 then 1 and 2. If that happens, can we be more optimistic or does that not matter at this point, considering its the first time all winter it may do that.


There is still reason to be optimistic until we move into mid-March. This MJO pass through 8/1/2 has actually been trending towards a truer MJO pulse with less influence from ERW & KW. I posted a filtered image over the weekend that showed a very low amp MJO pulse, lower than the January pass, but now the filtered image is showing a truer MJO.

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This should allow for a more predictable response from the influence of tropical convection on the downstream pattern over N. America. We may finally see a -NAO develop as we head into the 2nd half of February. Obviously, this is based on the models being right about the MJO and how it will influence the mid-lats but there is reason to believe that this is real. A lot of the analogs that I looked at this afternoon had snow in February & March for N. Texas during past similar patterns.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#5226 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:25 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
hamburgerman7070 wrote:I got a question. Mjo is supposed to get into phase 8 then 1 and 2. If that happens, can we be more optimistic or does that not matter at this point, considering its the first time all winter it may do that.


There is still reason to be optimistic until we move into mid-March. This MJO pass through 8/1/2 has actually been trending towards a truer MJO pulse with less influence from ERW & KW. I posted a filtered image over the weekend that showed a very low amp MJO pulse, lower than the January pass, but now the filtered image is showing a truer MJO.

https://i.ibb.co/7yJ5F8S/Filtered-MJO-25%2019.png

This should allow for a more predictable response from the influence of tropical convection on the downstream pattern over N. America. We may finally see a -NAO develop as we head into the 2nd half of February. Obviously, this is based on the models being right about the MJO and how it will influence the mid-lats but there is reason to believe that this is real. A lot of the analogs that I looked at this afternoon had snow in February & March for N. Texas during past similar patterns.


The latest GFS ensembles show a pretty robust MJO swinging through 7-8.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#5227 Postby HockeyTx82 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:37 pm

https://youtu.be/SHjSXQ_0rbQ

Is that Wxman57 doing the forecast in that video?
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#5228 Postby harp » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:57 pm

Question: If the MJO is truly moving to phase 8, when would it show up in the operational model runs?
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#5229 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:02 pm

harp wrote:Question: If the MJO is truly moving to phase 8, when would it show up in the operational model runs?


Last two weeks of February, based on current modeling.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#5230 Postby harp » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:23 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
harp wrote:Question: If the MJO is truly moving to phase 8, when would it show up in the operational model runs?


Last two weeks of February, based on current modeling.

Thank you. Keep us posted with your thoughts.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#5231 Postby spencer817 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:11 am

00z EURO has some snow for DFW this weekend :double:
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#5232 Postby Brent » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:24 am

spencer817 wrote:00z EURO has some snow for DFW this weekend :double:


That Friday wave has sure shifted north

I did notice also several GFS ensembles did show a little snow by Saturday

:double: :double: :double: this map is way overdone looking at the precip maps but still

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#5233 Postby Haris » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:30 am

Most of that will be virga imo. Too much dry air per the soundings. That is the case both in C and N TX
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#5234 Postby Brent » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:32 am

Haris wrote:Most of that will be virga imo. Too much dry air per the soundings. That is the case both in C and N TX


Yeah looking at the precip maps I'm thinking its closer to a flizzard than accumulating snow

But maybe we'll be wrong lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#5235 Postby Cpv17 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:03 am

I for one am just glad it’s going to get cold again for a few days. It’s been downright nasty here these past few days. I shouldn’t be sweating doing yard work in February.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#5236 Postby gpsnowman » Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:27 am

Well I am up for work. Line of rain moving in. Doesn't look all that impressive but maybe we get some T&L out of it. Rain is good.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#5237 Postby Brent » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:00 am

gpsnowman wrote:Well I am up for work. Line of rain moving in. Doesn't look all that impressive but maybe we get some T&L out of it. Rain is good.


71 at the airport 40 in Bowie gonna be a shock to some people by lunchtime :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#5238 Postby HockeyTx82 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:08 am

Nice little storm here in Ponder. The dog is spooked and she woke me up.

Quite a temp gradient as you all have mentioned.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#5239 Postby gpsnowman » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:12 am

Brent wrote:
gpsnowman wrote:Well I am up for work. Line of rain moving in. Doesn't look all that impressive but maybe we get some T&L out of it. Rain is good.


71 at the airport 40 in Bowie gonna be a shock to some people by lunchtime :lol:

Good weather day ahead. Rain then wind and dropping temps. Hey, it is something!!!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#5240 Postby gpsnowman » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:32 am

I take back what I said. This line is impressive. Quick but impressive.
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