2019 Indicators: SST'S / Sal / MSLP / Steering / Shear / Instability (See updated graphics at first post)

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Re: 2019 Indicators: SST'S / Sal / MSLP / Steering / Shear / Instability (See updated graphics at first post)

#381 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:36 am

Hammy wrote:Something about this season is feeling like 2002, given the pattern the models are indicating, the early inactivity, and how completely dead the Atlantic looks in general. Are there any indicators as far as that being an analog?

The SST profile in the Atlantic on this date in 2002 was much less favorable than the current SST state. Not to mention the El Niño was more pronounced and East-based at the time.

To put it into perspective, 2017 is a better analog than 2002.

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#382 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:07 am

Hard to believe the last, what I would consider powerful, Carribbean runners were way back in 2007 with Dean and Felix! Matthew would probably be the next closest thing we have had. Very powerful but didnt really traverse most of the Carribbean like the others. They use to seem so much more frequent but maybe I'm just not remembering correctly. I believe I read the Euro was indicating lower shear values in the carribbean during the heart of the season?
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#383 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:44 pm

Mark sudduth’s newest video is very concerning as west of 50w has record breaking heat content for this time of year, let’s hope an El Niño makes a comeback or its going to possibly get really ugly, even 2017 didn’t give this kind of heat content in that area
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#384 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:00 pm

Watch the Gulf of Mexico AGAIN come October. May be more October mischief for Florida if that’s the case. I remember not too long ago someone pointed out that the Euro is also hinting the same as well for October. :eek:

 https://twitter.com/bennollweather/status/1145715181672161287


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#385 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:43 am

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Ridge is quite strong if anything gets going by the next two weeks.
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#386 Postby StruThiO » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:46 am

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#387 Postby NotSparta » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:53 am

AutoPenalti wrote:http://i65.tinypic.com/i4g7jb.png

Ridge is pretty strong for this time of year if anything gets going by the next two weeks.


Just to note, a strong ridge in this region tends to mean a weak TUTT
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#388 Postby StruThiO » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:36 am

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#389 Postby chaser1 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:49 am

TheStormExpert wrote:Watch the Gulf of Mexico AGAIN come October. May be more October mischief for Florida if that’s the case. I remember not too long ago someone pointed out that the Euro is also hinting the same as well for October. :eek:

https://twitter.com/bennollweather/status/1145715181672161287


I personally am NOT on-board with Ben's suggestion that the October/November CanSIPS represents Gulf of Mexico tropical development suddenly "springing to life". That's not to suggest that one or two large sloppy T.D.'s or T.S.'s wouldn't develop within this higher latitude swath that covers the GOM to well east of the Bahamas. Even so, wouldn't Climo here primarily imply a greater rainfall concern then a major wind event? This looks like a set-up where I'd expect to see development (tropical or sub-tropical) primarily east of Florida with general forward motion being north and east into the N. Atlantic. I wonder if this depiction of deeper precip is merely suggestive of a continuance or stronger "El Nino-like" mid to upper level flow in conjunction with stronger early Fall cold fronts making their way south and draping across roughly 20N latitude.
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#390 Postby Shell Mound » Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:09 am

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#392 Postby StruThiO » Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:56 pm

While shear can and will change on a dime, is it just me or does this seem rather low for an El Nino in early July.

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#393 Postby StruThiO » Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:05 pm

GEFS showing very anomalously low shear in the extended..

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#395 Postby NotSparta » Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:45 pm

StruThiO wrote:While shear can and will change on a dime, is it just me or does this seem rather low for an El Nino in early July.

https://i.imgur.com/WKUORlG.png


If the GEFS know anything, this will drop 20kts in the next couple weeks
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#397 Postby StruThiO » Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:58 pm

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#398 Postby USTropics » Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:04 pm

I wanted to compare SAL in the month of June to past years, so below is an animated loop of SAL in the month of June starting in 2002. Data is derived from NASA's NEO AQUA/MODIS Aerosol Optical Depth. It does appear SAL was anomalously low for June 2019 (not a forecast for future months, just an observation):

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#399 Postby Shell Mound » Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:13 am

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#400 Postby Hurricaneman » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:40 am


Looks like 2004 may be emerging as a top analog which means from the Carolinas to New Orleans May be at highest risk
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