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Re: ATL: TWO - Models

#681 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:54 pm

Steve wrote:NAM 12km @ 18z moves the circulation up toward the LA Coast and then runs the coast on down to about Bay City/Lake Jackson

3km is still off the LA Coast and hasn't finished it's run to 60 hours yet to see if it will also hook off west or come inland.


lol I will give it to the NAM it is persistent with its tracks to Texas, even when it has to turn on a dime to the west to get there.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Models

#682 Postby MississippiWx » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:57 pm

Steve wrote:NAM 12km @ 18z moves the circulation up toward the LA Coast and then runs the coast on down to about Bay City/Lake Jackson

3km is still off the LA Coast and hasn't finished it's run to 60 hours yet to see if it will also hook off west or come inland. Jumped to 60h and is still offshore of the SC LA Coast at 883mb. Lol


Moving due north at that time. Even jumped a little east on the last frame. The intensity is bogus, but the track is very similar to the Euro and GFS.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Models

#683 Postby SoupBone » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:18 pm

ICON looks like it moved slightly west of last run, but it's really hard to zoom in and see.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Models

#684 Postby Steve » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:22 pm

SoupBone wrote:ICON looks like it moved slightly west of last run, but it's really hard to zoom in and see.


Lake Charles to Little Rock
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Re: ATL: TWO - Models

#685 Postby NDG » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:23 pm

SoupBone wrote:ICON looks like it moved slightly west of last run, but it's really hard to zoom in and see.


Maybe by ten miles.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Models

#686 Postby NDG » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:27 pm

Steve wrote:
SoupBone wrote:ICON looks like it moved slightly west of last run, but it's really hard to zoom in and see.


Lake Charles to Little Rock


That's a lot closer to Lafayette than to Lake Charles 8-)

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Re: ATL: TWO - Models

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Re: ATL: TWO - Models

#688 Postby SoupBone » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:38 pm




I wonder if this is why the NHC/NWS barely adjusted their track? And is he suggesting the UKMET will be correct?
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Re: ATL: TWO - Models

#689 Postby StormLogic » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:39 pm



Been saying this since monday :roll:
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Re: ATL: TWO - Models

#690 Postby Steve » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:53 pm

NDG wrote:
Steve wrote:
SoupBone wrote:ICON looks like it moved slightly west of last run, but it's really hard to zoom in and see.


Lake Charles to Little Rock


That's a lot closer to Lafayette than to Lake Charles 8-)

https://i.imgur.com/VK2X5Nq.gif


It's like Abbeville. But there was a specific point in the run where it about jumped on top of Lake Charles. Then when it's in Arkansas, it finds its way to the middle of the state near Little Rock. I wasn't talking the landfall, sorry if that wasn't clear.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Models

#691 Postby SoupBone » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:56 pm

The GFS is doing some weird loop-de-loop off the Louisiana coast then heading NE on Saturday into central Louisiana.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Models

#692 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:57 pm

18z GFS hours 00-78:
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Re: ATL: TWO - Models

#693 Postby South Texas Storms » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:04 pm

SoupBone wrote:



I wonder if this is why the NHC/NWS barely adjusted their track? And is he suggesting the UKMET will be correct?


That along with the fact that NHC doesn't like to make big shifts with each forecast cycle. Still too early to rule out a possible landfall in southeast TX. UKMET and Canadian could very well be right. I think we'll have a lot more confidence in the forecast at this time tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Models

#694 Postby Steve » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:05 pm

GFS 18z comes in around Amelia/Morgan City at 993. Looks like the GFS almost wants to pull west there for a bit before hooking back. It's been having more runs with a quicker to NE than most of the models that bring Barry in on a NW or NNW or even due north heading after landfall. Canadian and the hurricanes had some quicker NE outs in some of their runs too. I'm not sure how it goes out or if the GFS is going to be right. You'd think with an intensifying storm at landfall, it wouldn't find a quick way into the westerlies since they'd likely be farther north. Of course it's not every day we have a July hurricane threat on the northern gulf. I'm sure I can speak for everyone from Tampa over to Houma that it's kind of cool in a different way to have an unpredictable system forming right on top of you. You don't get that every day either.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Models

#695 Postby sphelps8681 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:06 pm

Kingarabian wrote:18z GFS hours 00-78:
https://i.imgur.com/ipKd37K.gif


According to a post earlier this model and others and errors on the 12z and 18 z runs.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Models

#696 Postby Steve » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:12 pm

sphelps8681 wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:18z GFS hours 00-78:
https://i.imgur.com/ipKd37K.gif


According to a post earlier this model and others and errors on the 12z and 18 z runs.


They always have issues. Either they initialize in the wrong place or handle horse latitude features wrong. There's almost always something, and you have to expect that. I appreciate jc bringing the tweet to our attention, because if it does end up mattering, there are a lot of people from Galveston up through the Triangle who won't have a ton of time to prepare considering we'd likely be around only 3 days or so until impact. A lot of folks work and maybe are on vacation or whatever and will only have a limited time to take care of things.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Models

#697 Postby TexasF6 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:13 pm

Looks like the center may be under that new hot tower firing now. Just my eyes! I saw a promet tweet saying there are errors in the GFS 18z, in regards to the high pressure not being accounted for in the data.






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Re: ATL: TWO - Models

#698 Postby StormLogic » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:17 pm

Don't count on any "for sure" forecasts for "Barry" today. The blocking ridge is probably going to make drastic changes to the outcome in the next 48hrs.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Models

#699 Postby TexWx » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:17 pm

TexasF6 wrote:Looks like the center may be under that new hot tower firing now. Just my eyes! I saw a promet tweet saying there are errors in the GFS 18z, in regards to the high pressure not being accounted for in the data.


I was looking there too.



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Re: ATL: TWO - Models

#700 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:22 pm

Steve wrote:
sphelps8681 wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:18z GFS hours 00-78:
https://i.imgur.com/ipKd37K.gif


According to a post earlier this model and others and errors on the 12z and 18 z runs.


They always have issues. Either they initialize in the wrong place or handle horse latitude features wrong. There's almost always something, and you have to expect that. I appreciate jc bringing the tweet to our attention, because if it does end up mattering, there are a lot of people from Galveston up through the Triangle who won't have a ton of time to prepare considering we'd likely be around only 3 days or so until impact. A lot of folks work and maybe are on vacation or whatever and will only have a limited time to take care of things.


I understand. The only reason I'm posting it is for formality and archive reasons.
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