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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone TWO - Discussion

#641 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:57 pm

gatorcane wrote:We may look back and think how things would have been so much worse if it had just 24 hours more over water. It’s a good thing since the environment is near ideal, probably the difference between a high-end TS / low-end hurricane and a major making landfall.


It still has 48 hours over the GOM, right?
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone TWO - Discussion: Data from NOAA plane Kermit shows pressure starting to fall

#642 Postby GCANE » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:59 pm

On IR, it looks like it may be trying to band to the SE
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone TWO - Discussion: Data from NOAA plane Kermit shows pressure starting to fall

#643 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:00 pm

While there's a huge risk of large scale flooding in regards to this system regardless of intensity, at the rate it's going, we should hope that @ landfall the models have the intensity correct because so far it looks like it's organizing more than forecast.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone TWO - Discussion: Data from NOAA plane Kermit shows pressure starting to fall

#644 Postby BYG Jacob » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:01 pm

:uarrow: Has that classic comma look
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone TWO - Discussion

#645 Postby GCANE » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:04 pm

That high CAPE air from the coast is entraining into it now.

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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone TWO - Discussion

#646 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:04 pm

SAB up to 1.5.

TXNT25 KNES 110017
TCSNTL

A. 02L (NONAME)

B. 11/0001Z

C. 27.5N

D. 87.7W

E. THREE/GOES-E

F. T1.5/1.5/D1.0/24HRS

G. IR/EIR/VIS

H. REMARKS...SYSTEM CHARACTERIZED BY 3/10 BANDING ON A LOG-10
SCALE. DT=1.5 MET AND PT AGREE. FT IS BASED ON DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone TWO - Discussion

#647 Postby tropicwatch » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:07 pm

cycloneye wrote:SAB up to 1.5.

TXNT25 KNES 110017
TCSNTL

A. 02L (NONAME)

B. 11/0001Z

C. 27.5N

D. 87.7W

E. THREE/GOES-E

F. T1.5/1.5/D1.0/24HRS

G. IR/EIR/VIS

H. REMARKS...SYSTEM CHARACTERIZED BY 3/10 BANDING ON A LOG-10
SCALE. DT=1.5 MET AND PT AGREE. FT IS BASED ON DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


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Cyclone could you give us the English version of that report 8-)
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone TWO - Discussion

#648 Postby tropicwatch » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:09 pm

panamatropicwatch wrote:
cycloneye wrote:SAB up to 1.5.

TXNT25 KNES 110017
TCSNTL

A. 02L (NONAME)

B. 11/0001Z

C. 27.5N

D. 87.7W

E. THREE/GOES-E

F. T1.5/1.5/D1.0/24HRS

G. IR/EIR/VIS

H. REMARKS...SYSTEM CHARACTERIZED BY 3/10 BANDING ON A LOG-10
SCALE. DT=1.5 MET AND PT AGREE. FT IS BASED ON DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


...FISHER

Cycloneye could you give us the English version of that report 8-)
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone TWO - Discussion

#649 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:09 pm

As someone said, probably a good thing this only has 48 hours over the Gulf rather than 72. Regardless, strong TS to strong C1 is probable, with rain and surge as the main threats. I'll have a larger writeup sometime tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone TWO - Discussion

#650 Postby Ian2401 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:10 pm

upgrade at 11:00pm? recent recon passes certainly support it imo
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone TWO - Discussion

#651 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:10 pm

panamatropicwatch wrote:
cycloneye wrote:SAB up to 1.5.

TXNT25 KNES 110017
TCSNTL

A. 02L (NONAME)

B. 11/0001Z

C. 27.5N

D. 87.7W

E. THREE/GOES-E

F. T1.5/1.5/D1.0/24HRS

G. IR/EIR/VIS

H. REMARKS...SYSTEM CHARACTERIZED BY 3/10 BANDING ON A LOG-10
SCALE. DT=1.5 MET AND PT AGREE. FT IS BASED ON DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


...FISHER

Cyclone could you give us the English version of that report 8-)


The log scale, in this case, is based on a logarithmic spiral (similar to the Fibonacci sequence) ... essentially the closer it fits to this scale the better the T-numbers ... of course other criteria play a role in the T-numbers.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone TWO - Discussion

#652 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:11 pm

Hurricane Andrew wrote:As someone said, probably a good thing this only has 48 hours over the Gulf rather than 72. Regardless, strong TS to strong C1 is probable, with rain and surge as the main threats. I'll have a larger writeup sometime tomorrow.



major hurricane is not out of the question...
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone TWO - Discussion

#653 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:12 pm

Hurricane Andrew wrote:As someone said, probably a good thing this only has 48 hours over the Gulf rather than 72. Regardless, strong TS to strong C1 is probable, with rain and surge as the main threats. I'll have a larger writeup sometime tomorrow.


Definitely has more than 48 hours over the Gulf, more like 60 at the very minimum.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone TWO - Discussion

#654 Postby dexterlabio » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:14 pm

We have seen TDs ramping up to cane status in just 24hrs, so a 48-hr stay over water has a lot of potential IMO.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone TWO - Discussion

#655 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:16 pm

dexterlabio wrote:We have seen TDs ramping up to cane status in just 24hrs, so a 48-hr stay over water has a lot of potential IMO.


We've seen them do it in a little more than 12 hours. But neither the NHC forecast or any of the reliable models that I can find show 02L coming ashore in 48 hours. HWRF has landfall by 60 hours. GFS by 72 hours.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone TWO - Discussion

#656 Postby GCANE » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:18 pm

Really nice venting along the whole east side.
All due to the equatorward outflow channel.
Once the poleward outflow channel tugs on it, it'll be balls to the wall.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone TWO - Discussion

#657 Postby tropicwatch » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:18 pm

The log scale, in this case, is based on a logarithmic spiral (similar to the Fibonacci sequence) ... essentially the closer it fits to this scale the better the T-numbers ... of course other criteria play a role in the T-numbers.


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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone TWO - Discussion

#658 Postby dexterlabio » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:19 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
We've seen them do it in a little more than 12 hours. But neither the NHC forecast or any of the reliable models that I can find show 02L coming ashore in 48 hours. HWRF has landfall by 60 hours. GFS by 72 hours.


In that case, more reason to NOT be surprised to see a major hurricane by the doorstep. And by the looks of it, it's now ready to form its thick CDO...
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone TWO - Discussion

#659 Postby storm4u » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:21 pm

dexterlabio wrote:We have seen TDs ramping up to cane status in just 24hrs, so a 48-hr stay over water has a lot of potential IMO.



Not saying this will do it.. but didn't Katrina go from cat 1 to cat 5 in 18 hours or so?
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone TWO - Discussion

#660 Postby ColdMiser123 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:22 pm

cycloneye wrote:SAB up to 1.5.

TXNT25 KNES 110017
TCSNTL

A. 02L (NONAME)

B. 11/0001Z

C. 27.5N

D. 87.7W

E. THREE/GOES-E

F. T1.5/1.5/D1.0/24HRS

G. IR/EIR/VIS

H. REMARKS...SYSTEM CHARACTERIZED BY 3/10 BANDING ON A LOG-10
SCALE. DT=1.5 MET AND PT AGREE. FT IS BASED ON DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


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Those coordinates agree pretty well with what recon just found in the last pass.
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