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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1421 Postby ColdFusion » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:39 pm

SoupBone wrote:Not to minimize that video but I've been in that exact road before during a depression and the water covered the road. It doesn't take much for that road to go under.


Very true, not too surprising. If you care to look, some longer vids coming out of GI.

https://twitter.com/wchs8fox11/status/1 ... 4466499584
https://twitter.com/KTULNews/status/1149753024228798464
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1422 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:41 pm

SoupBone wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
EasyTiger wrote:I just checked the surface map and noticed that the front has stalled out. Any idea as to how this affects Barry?


personally..... the hole is closed at all levels except the 850 mb level. mid and upper trough has begun to lift out and shift east with building ridging coming behind it. The ridge to the east is all that is left for steering really. its is stronger in the low levels.

Barry would have to wobble more west to see and real changes. unless the ridge to east weakens a tad or shifts. It has been stuck between these two large ridges the entire time..

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/d ... oom=&time=


That's a whole lot of words for being non-committal. :lol: Messing with you.

Do you think it's going to go more west, like a Tex/LA solution?



lol...

That would be the max. it would have to rotate all the way to the SW of gyre then resume its wnw motion. However this sw rotation where its now already looks like it might shift the landfall west of the bay now.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1423 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:47 pm

Barry went from 993 mb to 996 mb the last pass from HH. So, it is indeed weakening some.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1424 Postby Ntxw » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:47 pm

In case we weren't sure what it looks like in motion.

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1425 Postby GCANE » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:47 pm

Just checked CIMSS.
The overall vort column is expanding vertically.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1426 Postby Nederlander » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:48 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:Barry went from 993 mb to 996 mb the last pass from HH. So, it is indeed weakening some.


DMIN?
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1427 Postby Condor » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:49 pm

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1428 Postby jasons2k » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:52 pm

The winds here around Houston have picked-up a bit but also changed trajectory, slightly from NE to more NNE now. You can see the shift on HGX radar. No precip. at all though.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1429 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:53 pm

Which way do i go george ? lol

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1430 Postby GCANE » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:55 pm

Rapid Scan showing the swirl taking a turn to the south.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1431 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:59 pm

GCANE wrote:Rapid Scan showing the swirl taking a turn to the south.



Very shortly Convection is about to blow up over the center...
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1432 Postby MississippiWx » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:59 pm

As the Vort max dives south now, I would look for the convection on the east side to begin rotating upshear (north).
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#1433 Postby ColdFusion » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:05 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
GCANE wrote:Rapid Scan showing the swirl taking a turn to the south.



Very shortly Convection is about to blow up over the center...


Aric tripling down on his prediction!
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1434 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:06 pm

Here is what I see happening.. it rotates down into the circle area and starts to build convection then heads off the nw then nww...

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1435 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:07 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:There's a single vortex, but it's clearly rotating around a broader area of rotation. Recon confirms that's where the lowest pressure is and the sharpest windshift, but it's being influenced by a very broad area of low pressure. It'll begin to move more west, and then southwest.

EDIT: Satellite frames already show this mesovortex moving west. It'll begin to move more southwest here in a few hours.


Going SW now.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1436 Postby Nederlander » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:12 pm

Convection firing over the center
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1437 Postby TheProfessor » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:12 pm

The 3Km NAM is actually doing a great job forecasting this loop that the circulation has taken. It does a couple of more smaller loops as the storm approaches land.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1438 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:13 pm

To illustrate what I'm seeing, the motion of the LLC is constrained to red circle due a broad, relatively stationary rotation to the south. Kind of like Polaris around celestial north pole, to name a non-meteorological example if you're into astronomy.

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1439 Postby SoupBone » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:17 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Here is what I see happening.. it rotates down into the circle area and starts to build convection then heads off the nw then nww...

https://i.ibb.co/RT1dcs5/GOES19562019193j-G9dl-Z.jpg



That would mean more of a Lake Charles/Holly Beach/Cameron landfall.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1440 Postby Frank P » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:18 pm

wow convection really flaring up as the LLC heads back southwest towards the mass of clouds... amazing to watch..
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