ATL: BARRY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1461 Postby Blinhart » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:46 pm

ScottNAtlanta wrote:I'm wondering if there are some people that are questioning their decision to not open the Morganza spillway a month ago.


I've been questioning it since they decided that the flow wasn't strong enough. I'm sorry we have been having high river stages since February and don't expect it to drop to normal until the End of August, why not alleviate some of the pressure that has been up against the berms for months on end.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1462 Postby Joseph Palmer » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:48 pm

These rainfall amounts are frightening, are there estimates of what happens to NOLA if there's a foot of rain over such a wide area draining into the Mississippi?
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1463 Postby SunnyThoughts » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:49 pm

Live streaming local channels out of New Orleans.

https://www.wdsu.com/nowcast

https://www.fox8live.com/live/
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1464 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:49 pm

Blinhart wrote:
ScottNAtlanta wrote:I'm wondering if there are some people that are questioning their decision to not open the Morganza spillway a month ago.


I've been questioning it since they decided that the flow wasn't strong enough. I'm sorry we have been having high river stages since February and don't expect it to drop to normal until the End of August, why not alleviate some of the pressure that has been up against the berms for months on end.


Especially with the catastrophic disaster that would happen if the ORC failed or was overtopped due to a storm like this. This isnt new infrastructure either. Some of it is older than most people posting here.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1465 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:52 pm

When you can’t even point out the center of circulation that’s when you know how disorganized this storm is.

Watching The Weather Channel and one of the OCM’s mentions how much the wind has picked up and I’m thinking really!?
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1466 Postby shiny-pebble » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:54 pm

Convection is really starting to fire off

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1467 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:02 pm

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That swirly going around northern part of circulation of #Barry is not the center of the tropical storm and is heading southwestward to the west side. Landfall of the actual center should occur sometime early Saturday, but life-threatening inland floods continue long after that.


I would point out that the lone vortex is precisely what the NHC identified as the center on their latest advisory. I think it IS becoming the center. As it makes its small cyclonic loop the convection will begin to wrap around it tonight.

The red crosshairs mark the NHC's position:

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1468 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:06 pm

Quickly becoming better organized. LLC approaching the main convection. I think 70 knots is a good bet.

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1469 Postby SoupBone » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:09 pm

wxman57 wrote:
SunnyThoughts wrote:Dr. Rick Knabb

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That swirly going around northern part of circulation of #Barry is not the center of the tropical storm and is heading southwestward to the west side. Landfall of the actual center should occur sometime early Saturday, but life-threatening inland floods continue long after that.


I would point out that the lone vortex is precisely what the NHC identified as the center on their latest advisory. I think it IS becoming the center. As it makes its small cyclonic loop the convection will begin to wrap around it tonight.

The red crosshairs mark the NHC's position:

http://wxman57.com/images/Barry9.JPG


Wouldn't this be overall better for New Orleans and Terrebonne Parish as far as rainfall? As it moves NW, that track would pull them out of the heaviest amounts.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1470 Postby Condor » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:10 pm

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1471 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:11 pm

SoupBone wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
SunnyThoughts wrote:Dr. Rick Knabb

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That swirly going around northern part of circulation of #Barry is not the center of the tropical storm and is heading southwestward to the west side. Landfall of the actual center should occur sometime early Saturday, but life-threatening inland floods continue long after that.


I would point out that the lone vortex is precisely what the NHC identified as the center on their latest advisory. I think it IS becoming the center. As it makes its small cyclonic loop the convection will begin to wrap around it tonight.

The red crosshairs mark the NHC's position:

http://wxman57.com/images/Barry9.JPG


Wouldn't this be overall better for New Orleans and Terrebonne Parish as far as rainfall? As it moves NW, that track would pull them out of the heaviest amounts.


No. All that squall activity will be moving across SE LA regardless. However, it's hard to say just where the bands of heaviest precip will develop tomorrow and Sunday.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1472 Postby Craters » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:15 pm

Okay. I'm seeing something in the visible loop that I don't understand:

https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=s ... =undefined

Maybe some kind soul can explain it to me. Take a look at the left side of the circulation. If the real distinctive mesovortex that everybody's been discussing is the center of a clock, I'm talking about looking from roughly the center of the clock straight out toward 9:00. Actually, it isn't exactly radial: more like a bearing of 70°- 250°, and it holds that orientation. It looks like a searchlight (seen from the side) that moves up the feeder bands as they rotate toward the south. I think it's some sort of disturbance that's doing something to the individual patches of cumulus, but I'm just not sure. I've been looking at it for so long that I think I'm starting to see things.

First, does anybody see what I'm talking about?? It's visible in both the red and blue ABI bands. If so, well, any ideas as to what it might be?

Thanks...
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1473 Postby w5yne » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:16 pm

We ready, live about 20 miles west of Lafayette so slightly west of the center cone

While it only gonna be a TD it has been a long time since we had a storm, Gustav was the last i think
So I'm expecting plenty of fallen utility poles and so on

Generator is fueled ready to go
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#1474 Postby ColdFusion » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:16 pm

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1475 Postby Puddinhead » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:18 pm

Joseph Palmer wrote:These rainfall amounts are frightening, are there estimates of what happens to NOLA if there's a foot of rain over such a wide area draining into the Mississippi?

Not to harp on a point, but we (NOLA) dont drain our rainwater to the Mississippi River. The river levees and the land nearest them constitute our highest elevations, and rainwater has always been drained away from the River and to the backswamp and Lake via canals and still is, now with pumps aiding gravity. Ironically, high rainfall amounts locally have much less effect on River levels than does high rainfall in the Upper Mississippi Valley. All that being said...looking at local news coverage right now and the River is pretty darned scary high. :eek:
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1477 Postby HurricaneBrain » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:20 pm

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1478 Postby ColdFusion » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:21 pm

Live cam out of Grand Isle

https://irgir.click2stream.com/
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1479 Postby Siker » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:30 pm

Yet another vort was just expelled near 28.5N 90W.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1480 Postby BRweather » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:30 pm

What website do y'all prefer to use for station observations map?
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