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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#781 Postby MetsIslesNoles » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:21 pm

Siker wrote:GFS makes landfall Sunday afternoon and doesn't exit Florida until Friday evening when it heads offshore to the east.


It'll be a wonderful time in the panhandle if a solution like that occurs but a bit more south over the bay. I imagine it would be some epic flooding rains and with enough wind to (40-50 is plenty) to take out a lot of trees and power.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#782 Postby Kat5 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:29 pm

Just wanted to show how apparent the trend is, we can take the TVCN as an example.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#783 Postby StormLogic » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:31 pm

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icon takes dorian into gom where she hits some good fuel and grows bigger and then heads west
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#784 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:33 pm



Could it miss Puerto Rico to the right?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#785 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:33 pm

Kat5 wrote:Just wanted to show how apparent the trend is, we can take the TVCN as an example.

http://www.atmos.albany.edu/facstaff/tang/tcguidance/al052019/tr13.png



There is no trend, wait till it gets passed the mountains for a trend, I have done this to long to say there is a trend 5-7 days out
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#786 Postby ObsessedMiami » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:35 pm

Kat5 wrote:
CourierPR wrote:
Kat5 wrote:
Wouldn’t doubt that at all, anybody north of Jupiter beach should keep tabs on this storm, it’s unlikely at this point for it to make a direct hit south of there. If you live in south Florida, still be weary as we still haven’t seen the peak of this season yet!



So your meteorological expertise now puts South Florida in the clear. Now I can rest easy tonight.


Hence the word “unlikely” never said cleared. And I’m not a meteorologist, just an outsider throwing in his two cents.


Whatever happened to the old disclaimer one had to use if they were posting their opinion and not a professional forecast?
I remember they used to be strict on that when storms threatened populated areas because some may log on only once and see that post and figure its all clear.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#787 Postby chris_fit » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:38 pm

Notable change in the GFS Ensembles - MUCH stronger - MUCH more defined W Bend

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#788 Postby Hammy » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:39 pm

ObsessedMiami wrote:
Kat5 wrote:
CourierPR wrote:

So your meteorological expertise now puts South Florida in the clear. Now I can rest easy tonight.


Hence the word “unlikely” never said cleared. And I’m not a meteorologist, just an outsider throwing in his two cents.


Whatever happened to the old disclaimer one had to use if they were posting their opinion and not a professional forecast?
I remember they used to be strict on that when storms threatened populated areas because some may log on only once and see that post and figure its all clear.


If I remember correctly there were actual legal liability issues that prompted that in the first place and a later ruling rendered it unnecessary.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#789 Postby NotSparta » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:41 pm

ObsessedMiami wrote:
Kat5 wrote:
CourierPR wrote:

So your meteorological expertise now puts South Florida in the clear. Now I can rest easy tonight.


Hence the word “unlikely” never said cleared. And I’m not a meteorologist, just an outsider throwing in his two cents.


It's on the top of the page
Whatever happened to the old disclaimer one had to use if they were posting their opinion and not a professional forecast?
I remember they used to be strict on that when storms threatened populated areas because some may log on only once and see that post and figure its all clear.
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The disclaimer is still there, at the top
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#790 Postby Evil Jeremy » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:42 pm

:uarrow: Not what I was expecting from the ensembles given the jump N from the operational. Between those ensembles, ICON, and the weird UKMET dive WSW at day 5, it’s clear Dorian will be shoved west eventually. I wonder if there’s a hypothetical limit to how far N it can get before feeling the ridge. And also, how would a stronger Dorian that misses Hispaniola to the E interact with the ridge.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#791 Postby toad strangler » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:43 pm

Some of already said it before. Nothing ever good comes from a track like this historically. #UKMET

 https://twitter.com/hurrtrackerapp/status/1166392770766036994


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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#792 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:45 pm

I'm starting to get concerned about a stall and flooding. A non sexy storm hitting and stalling is extremely dangerous. UK sends it southwest, GFS stalls the vorticity over the panhandle, and GFS legacy has it meandering over Ga and the panhandle. The 0Z Euro washing out the vorticity but also shows it lingering.

This is still very far out but something to watch.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#793 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:46 pm

12Z Euro init
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#794 Postby robbielyn » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:46 pm

toad strangler wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:I disagree with the assessment that there's no trend. There has been a notable trend to the north and east over the past 12 hours. I'm just not convinced it will stick. GFS, UKMET, ICON, CMC have all made those adjustments this cycle. I agree with the toad strangler though, it's a crapshoot at the moment.


Fair enough. In my eyes none of these model runs matter until Dorian or whats left of him actually clear the GA's.
what’s GA?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#795 Postby toad strangler » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:48 pm

robbielyn wrote:
toad strangler wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:I disagree with the assessment that there's no trend. There has been a notable trend to the north and east over the past 12 hours. I'm just not convinced it will stick. GFS, UKMET, ICON, CMC have all made those adjustments this cycle. I agree with the toad strangler though, it's a crapshoot at the moment.


Fair enough. In my eyes none of these model runs matter until Dorian or whats left of him actually clear the GA's.
what’s GA?


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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#796 Postby AdamFirst » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:48 pm

robbielyn wrote:what’s GA?


The Greater Antilles - Puerto Rico and Hispaniola
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#797 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:48 pm

A stall over the Labor Day weekend would be a business disaster even if it is a weak storm. Yet it is looking very possible...it will be hard pressed to go north in the eastern Gulf, while if a ridge blocks to the west...I wonder if the models are on to something?

Do they account for the new center though?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#798 Postby Kohlecane » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:48 pm

Euro Initialized A tad bit south IMO!
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#799 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:49 pm

Look at all of these GFS ensembles zeroing in on SE Florida also they are coming in stronger. By no means is South Florida in the clear. Let us hope the big islands can severely disrupt Dorian:

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#800 Postby La Sirena » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:52 pm

ObsessedMiami wrote:
Kat5 wrote:
CourierPR wrote:

So your meteorological expertise now puts South Florida in the clear. Now I can rest easy tonight.


Hence the word “unlikely” never said cleared. And I’m not a meteorologist, just an outsider throwing in his two cents.


Whatever happened to the old disclaimer one had to use if they were posting their opinion and not a professional forecast?
I remember they used to be strict on that when storms threatened populated areas because some may log on only once and see that post and figure its all clear.

Was wondering the same thing myself.
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