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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1261 Postby STRiZZY » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:24 pm

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1262 Postby otowntiger » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:27 pm

We are quickly getting to the stage where trends are your friends. I think recurve is not only table now I think it becoming probable. I do not see windshield wiper effect occurring so much anymore as the path slowly begins to get clear. Climo tells us recurve happens most often and probably will happen in this case.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1263 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:28 pm

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1264 Postby toad strangler » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:29 pm

Definitely climo type tracks by the GFS the past two runs. But, this isn't in stone says the UKMET.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1265 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:29 pm

The thing that turns this on the GFS is a system in the GOM which the Euro is weaker with that feature
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1266 Postby StPeteMike » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:29 pm

What’s causing the breakdown of the ridge all the sudden? Besides a very weak Erin, I don’t see anything that would allow room and time for Dorian to squeeze through.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1267 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:30 pm

otowntiger wrote:We are quickly getting to the stage where trends are your friends. I think recurve is not only table now I think it becoming probable. I do not see windshield wiper effect occurring so much anymore as the path slowly begins to get clear. Climo tells us recurve happens most often and probably will happen in this case.


It's going to be close. 2 or 3 days later, and it's not recurving. But it might have that opportunity. That GFS Legacy looks legit on strength though. That's what I've been thinking all along if it comes up east of Florida. That's where the cauldron is.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1268 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:30 pm

StPeteMike wrote:What’s causing the breakdown of the ridge all the sudden? Besides a very weak Erin, I don’t see anything that would allow room and time for Dorian to squeeze through.


Relative strength of the Bermuda High to the east I believe that is acting to drive it up. But the alternative scenario I see is a virtual stall-out.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1269 Postby caneseddy » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:33 pm

CMC shifts south..looks like landfall in Palm Beach County as a Cat 2
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1270 Postby WeatherEmperor » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:33 pm

New Canadian is going due W towards Palm Beach County so far which is a south shift from before. Closer to the Icon and Ukmet solutions.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1271 Postby Bocadude85 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:33 pm

0z CMC is quite a bit southeast of the 12z making a due west beeline for West Palm
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1272 Postby LarryWx » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:34 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:WTNT82 EGRR 280356

MET OFFICE TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE FOR NORTH-EAST PACIFIC AND ATLANTIC

GLOBAL MODEL DATA TIME 0000UTC 28.08.2019

TROPICAL STORM DORIAN ANALYSED POSITION : 15.5N 62.6W

ATCF IDENTIFIER : AL052019

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
0000UTC 28.08.2019 0 15.5N 62.6W 1010 25
1200UTC 28.08.2019 12 17.2N 64.6W 1009 32
0000UTC 29.08.2019 24 18.6N 65.9W 1008 36
1200UTC 29.08.2019 36 20.1N 67.2W 1005 39
0000UTC 30.08.2019 48 22.2N 68.0W 997 49
1200UTC 30.08.2019 60 23.9N 69.2W 989 55
0000UTC 31.08.2019 72 25.3N 70.5W 978 66
1200UTC 31.08.2019 84 26.3N 72.4W 978 67
0000UTC 01.09.2019 96 26.7N 74.0W 975 70
1200UTC 01.09.2019 108 27.0N 75.3W 970 69
0000UTC 02.09.2019 120 27.2N 76.4W 963 80
1200UTC 02.09.2019 132 27.2N 77.3W 965 74
0000UTC 03.09.2019 144 26.9N 77.6W 964 67


UKMET likely showing its leftward bias here. We’ve seen this in the past.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1273 Postby AdamFirst » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:34 pm

CMC is sending a formidable storm towards Palm Beach County - hour 108 980mb over Freeport heading barely WNW.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1274 Postby caneseddy » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:34 pm

caneseddy wrote:CMC shifts south..looks like landfall in Palm Beach County/Martin County as a Cat 2
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1275 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:35 pm

CMC has that other feature in the Gulf still. That's got to be an ULL with a surface reflection. It's shown up on some of the other models. What's odd to me, is that none of the MJO models are reflecting anything crazy in the next few days that would lead to development across the western basin. Maybe it's a singular CCKW or some other type of juice propagating west to east across the hemisphere? I'm not sure, but there's got to be reason this would crank along with a forerunning low.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1276 Postby MrJames » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:35 pm

CMC is east on this run and slower. Heading WNW toward West Palm Beach but the ridge looks like its starting to erode at 108hr.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1277 Postby sponger » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:36 pm



Ugly for NC! Lets see what the Euro has to say. Should get an agreement by the Friday 2 am run.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1278 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:37 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
StPeteMike wrote:What’s causing the breakdown of the ridge all the sudden? Besides a very weak Erin, I don’t see anything that would allow room and time for Dorian to squeeze through.


Relative strength of the Bermuda High to the east I believe that is acting to drive it up. But the alternative scenario I see is a virtual stall-out.


The alternate scrnario is a stalled Dorian just off the coast of Jacksonville late Sunday into early Monday.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1279 Postby AdamFirst » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:37 pm

CMC landfalls at the St. Lucie Inlet around ~120hr, 970~mb. A very Jeanne-like entry point.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1280 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:37 pm

Larry,

UK last couple seasons has had an E bias as much as it has had a west. It shows a SW hook. We'll see Saturday or Sunday if it was right.
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