ATL: DORIAN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1941 Postby HurricaneA » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:56 am

jaxfladude wrote:Is the NE FLA and SE GA coastline still a possible landfall? Or is Dorian likely not directly impact landfall wise? What's the rainfall amount forecast to be and how strong the winds? Hearing Dorian is expanding in strength and size right? Evacuated for Floyd in 1999 and for Irma in 2017 will Dorian be number three? Not happy at all...

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In my opinion, I would say anywhere between the southern coast of Florida up to South Carolina is still a possibility right now.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1942 Postby 1900hurricane » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:57 am

NotSparta wrote:I remember when there were strong +SSTAs in the region where Dorian is likely to track, luckily they have come down some

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b6101102cae8072602dfc55d63f407de03833ed45421ce653c6621a108db4dbe.png

I don't know the answer since I haven't been following them that closely, but this is a question that may be worth asking. With anomalies coming down, does that actually correlate to sea surface temperatures decreasing or is it more of a sign of the average increasing and actual sea surface temperatures remaining constant?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1943 Postby Patrick99 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:58 am

sma10 wrote:
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ObsessedMiami wrote:Yes do it ASAP. The crowds will be out tonight.

Now where is that post from this morning that said a SFL Tv met was sounding the all clear????


Places are already running out of water or limiting it here in the north Broward area on up.


Also a good time to remind people that the stuff that comes out of the faucet is also clean water now, so fill jugs and bottles now to your hearts content. No crowds and relatively free. :)


Yeah, I always fill up a few 32oz jugs in addition to the bottled water I have, just in case. It requires very little effort and cost.
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#1944 Postby jaxfladude » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:58 am

northjaxpro wrote:I am pretty sure the state emergency officials are gathering now on when to start evacuations. We should be hearing about this in very soon, given the latest developments.
Fellow Jacksonville Florida metro poster, what's your gut feeling about our immediate area effects or impacts concerning Dorian???

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#1945 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:59 am

And this burst of convection should start to clear out the eye.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1946 Postby Highteeld » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:00 pm

76FL/63SFMR

it's basically there
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#1947 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:00 pm

The eye should start peaking out pretty soon.
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#1948 Postby cainjamin » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:01 pm

164530 1810N 06446W 8424 01516 0023 +180 //// 150037 038 063 007 05
164600 1811N 06445W 8437 01509 0054 +173 +173 146062 076 063 016 00
164630 1812N 06444W 8458 01500 0080 +163 +163 136070 075 062 032 03

Unflagged 63kt SMFR AND 76kt FL. If Dorian isn't a hurricane right now, it's very very close.
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#1949 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:02 pm

And that recon pass confirms we have a hurricane.

Pressure maybe 999.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1950 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:02 pm

NotSparta wrote:I remember when there were strong +SSTAs in the region where Dorian is likely to track, luckily they have come down some

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b6101102cae8072602dfc55d63f407de03833ed45421ce653c6621a108db4dbe.png



remember that is the anomaly map. It is showing the difference of temps compared to normal. Those "lighter colors" aren't saying the water is cool, just that it may be a little cooler than the normal bathwater. i.e. 90 degrees instead of 92! lol
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#1951 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:03 pm

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#1952 Postby 1900hurricane » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:03 pm

76 kt at 850 mb extrapolates to 64.6 kt, in good agreement with the 63 kt SFMR. I'd go 65 kt at 18Z.
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#1953 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:05 pm

cainjamin wrote:164530 1810N 06446W 8424 01516 0023 +180 //// 150037 038 063 007 05
164600 1811N 06445W 8437 01509 0054 +173 +173 146062 076 063 016 00
164630 1812N 06444W 8458 01500 0080 +163 +163 136070 075 062 032 03

Unflagged 63kt SMFR AND 76kt FL. If Dorian isn't a hurricane right now, it's very very close.


Given its clearly on an organising trend, and the fact that both figures are basically at the cusp of an upgrade anyway, they will pull the trigger for a hurricane by the next advisory.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1954 Postby StPeteMike » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:05 pm

Definitely a hurricane and probably closer to 80 mph than just at the cutoff to be labeled one. Which I think means an earlier than forecasted hurricane and stronger than expected.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1955 Postby SoupBone » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:05 pm




Maybe it's just the way the image loop is setup, but that looks like it's headed to San Juan.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1956 Postby Highteeld » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:06 pm

StPeteMike wrote:Definitely a hurricane and probably closer to 80 mph than just at the cutoff to be labeled one. Which I think means an earlier than forecasted hurricane and stronger than expected.

This could have implications on the long term intensity forecasts if this continues to strengthen ahead of schedule. Would bring cat 4 more on the table imo.
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#1957 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:06 pm

jaxfladude wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:I am pretty sure the state emergency officials are gathering now on when to start evacuations. We should be hearing about this in very soon, given the latest developments.
Fellow Jacksonville Florida metro poster, what's your gut feeling about our immediate area effects or impacts concerning Dorian???

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My main worry is storm surge of course in the Saint Johns River. This is a HUGE concern. Look what happened with Irma in 2017. This could be potentially catastrophic with a potential Cat 3 or higher hurricane impacting our area with Dorian. We will definitely see tropical storm force winds and possibly hurricane force winds , depending upon how close the inner core of Dorian gets to Jax metro area. Flooding rains also possible, especially Sunday into Monday as it stands right now. Don't forget about tornadoes as well, always a big problem with landfalling hurricanes. Things can and will change. Stay abreasted!!
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1958 Postby USTropics » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:07 pm

1900hurricane wrote:
NotSparta wrote:I remember when there were strong +SSTAs in the region where Dorian is likely to track, luckily they have come down some

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b6101102cae8072602dfc55d63f407de03833ed45421ce653c6621a108db4dbe.png

I don't know the answer since I haven't been following them that closely, but this is a question that may be worth asking. With anomalies coming down, does that actually correlate to sea surface temperatures decreasing or is it more of a sign of the average increasing and actual sea surface temperatures remaining constant?


The stationary frontal boundary that helped spawn Erin decreased temperatures slightly, but still looking at 29C and approaching 30C in the western Bahamas:
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Enough depth to easily support a major:
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1959 Postby KC7NEC » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:08 pm

StPeteMike wrote:Definitely a hurricane and probably closer to 80 mph than just at the cutoff to be labeled one. Which I think means an earlier than forecasted hurricane and stronger than expected.


Agreed. I wonder if we will see a Special for an upgrade. Also with an earlier stronger storm, the models will be very interesting to see if they push a bit south.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1960 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:08 pm

Doesn’t stronger mean more WEST once it turns east of
Bahamas?
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