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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3681 Postby PandaCitrus » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:06 am

Yes, metro Orlando would look like Panama City did getting raked with Cat 3+ winds inland where historically building codes are TERRIBLE. There's probably a lot more damage in this track than in a Palm Beach County direct hit because the building codes are 175 MPH there. In Orlando, especially stuff the old construction won't withstand those winds.

NDG wrote:This is a worst case scenario track for Orlando so far by 12z GFS.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3682 Postby USTropics » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:06 am

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3683 Postby norva13x » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:06 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Overall, we're finally starting to see a much better consensus on the models today: Landfall somewhere near/south of Cape Canaveral, turn towards the north over Orlando. Big wind and rainfall threat over the entirety of Central Florida, North Florida, GA/SC/NC.


We're seeing a different consensus every day lol. I did think the track would go north a bit but that can also windshield wipe right back. Be interesting to see what they say at 2pm.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3684 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:06 am

Encouraging model trends so far for South Florida. Just need the Euro to shift as well.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3685 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:06 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Overall, we're finally starting to see a much better consensus on the models today: Landfall somewhere near/south of Cape Canaveral, turn towards the north over Orlando. Big wind and rainfall threat over the entirety of Central Florida, North Florida, GA/SC/NC. NHC track looks pretty likely, IMO.

Nothing’s set in stone yet. The windshield wiping will continue.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3686 Postby Kat5 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:07 am

Might be a start to a northern trend, as we speak. Not surprised at all especially with how the ensembles means have been lately. Jupiter beach and north seems like a prime destination for landfall.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3687 Postby beachman80 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:07 am

Feeling much safer here in Tampa after seeing that UK and GFS. Looks like we may not even get raid. But prayers for those on the other coast.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3688 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:08 am

Were is the UKMET landfall???
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3689 Postby KWT » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:08 am

Ukmo is very similar to 12z GFS but still a strong landfall, the coast gets hit by the eyewall for a long time.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3690 Postby Steve » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:08 am

Still slightly inland at 126 near Callahan/St. Mary's River
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3691 Postby Ubuntwo » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:08 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Overall, we're finally starting to see a much better consensus on the models today: Landfall somewhere near/south of Cape Canaveral, turn towards the north over Orlando. Big wind and rainfall threat over the entirety of Central Florida, North Florida, GA/SC/NC. NHC track looks pretty likely, IMO.

This consensus is based on just one model cycle. Just a couple cycles ago most models were tracking towards west palm. Especially with this sort of setup sudden shifts can happen just hours away from landfall.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3692 Postby Jevo » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:08 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Overall, we're finally starting to see a much better consensus on the models today: Landfall somewhere near/south of Cape Canaveral, turn towards the north over Orlando. Big wind and rainfall threat over the entirety of Central Florida, North Florida, GA/SC/NC. NHC track looks pretty likely, IMO.


I wouldn't necessarily say consensus.. everything was pretty much dead on WPBish 6 hours ago.. Now the GFS/UKMET nudge North while we wait for a EURO and in between the ICON stays in SFL. Right now I would say consensus is the one this we are all wishing for and don't have.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3693 Postby chris_fit » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:10 am

Just a reminder of how quickly things can (and still will) change - Here is Irma's forecast 2.5 days from Landfall.... We all know what happened. We are still over 3 days out here, at least, with Dorian. Also add Matthew to this list.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3694 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:10 am

AxaltaRacing24 wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Overall, we're finally starting to see a much better consensus on the models today: Landfall somewhere near/south of Cape Canaveral, turn towards the north over Orlando. Big wind and rainfall threat over the entirety of Central Florida, North Florida, GA/SC/NC. NHC track looks pretty likely, IMO.

Nothing’s set in stone yet. The windshield wiping will continue.


I never said it was set in stone? I just said we're finally seeing a consensus.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3695 Postby Steve » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:10 am

GFS 138 over Savannah.
GFS 144 almost to the coast again at the GA/SC border about to either run the SC coast or get back into the ocean.
GFS 150 offshore just off the Southeast SC Coast

NC next?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3696 Postby SouthDadeFish » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:12 am

I think, if anything, these shifts in the models continue to highlight the uncertainty in the forecast. Don't read too much into one shift. This could be the start of a trend or it could be the windshield-wiper effect manifesting itself in weak steering currents. Ensembles are useful in cases like this. Everyone needs to remain vigilant.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3697 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:12 am

There’s no consensus. 6hrs ago it was at WPB.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3698 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:13 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
AxaltaRacing24 wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Overall, we're finally starting to see a much better consensus on the models today: Landfall somewhere near/south of Cape Canaveral, turn towards the north over Orlando. Big wind and rainfall threat over the entirety of Central Florida, North Florida, GA/SC/NC. NHC track looks pretty likely, IMO.

Nothing’s set in stone yet. The windshield wiping will continue.


I never said it was set in stone? I just said we're finally seeing a consensus.

I know what you said, but we also saw a consensus last night too. It’ll continue to change.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3699 Postby KWT » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:13 am

Worth remembering that most models tend to be too far right with systems that bend westwards, though I feel like the models broadly have the right idea and just playing around with details now.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3700 Postby tgenius » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:14 am

SouthDadeFish wrote:I think, if anything, these shifts in the models continue to highlight the uncertainty in the forecast. Don't read too much into one shift. This could be the start of a trend or it could be the windshield-wiper effect manifesting itself in weak steering currents. Ensembles are useful in cases like this. Everyone needs to remain vigilant.

How much credibility do you give to ICON? It's been consistent run after run?
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