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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4261 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:26 pm

Yall best believe those models will shift again
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4262 Postby Ken711 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:27 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:I’m not buying that 18z run, no way that’s sitting there for 38 hours...


I agree sitting that long without moving seems a bit odd.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4263 Postby supercane4867 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:29 pm

18z Euro simply has no idea on what the hell is going on at the end :lol:
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4264 Postby Ken711 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:29 pm

SFLcane wrote:HWRF not so crazy now.. :eek:



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Note, this pretty much verified.
HWRF did remarkable for short term rapid intensification.
NHC 950 mb at 00Z.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4265 Postby sma10 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:29 pm

I think we also have to accept that an extended stall of 12 hours or 24 hours OR 38 hours makes movement thereafter a bit unsure, especially considering we'd be then talking about days 4/5 which already has inherent unknowns
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#4266 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:33 pm

SFLcane wrote:HWRF not so crazy now.. :eek:

Huh?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4267 Postby Bocadude85 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:35 pm

If these 18z runs of a stall just off the Fla coast verified, it would be absolutely devastating for the NW Bahamas, not to mention 24-30 hours of hurricane force gust on the Florida coast, this really does remind me of Frances in 2004, models did very similar things before finally coming into agreement on a slow wnw motion into the coast
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4268 Postby WeatherEmperor » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:38 pm

supercane4867 wrote:18z Euro simply has no idea on what the hell is going on at the end :lol:


Can you post the latest particulars on the 18Z Euro?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4269 Postby CFLHurricane » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:38 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:If these 18z runs of a stall just off the Fla coast verified, it would be absolutely devastating for the NW Bahamas, not to mention 24-30 hours of hurricane force gust on the Florida coast, this really does remind me of Frances in 2004, models did very similar things before finally coming into agreement on a slow wnw motion into the coast


Better off the coast than on :fingers crossed:
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4270 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:38 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:If these 18z runs of a stall just off the Fla coast verified, it would be absolutely devastating for the NW Bahamas, not to mention 24-30 hours of hurricane force gust on the Florida coast, this really does remind me of Frances in 2004, models did very similar things before finally coming into agreement on a slow wnw motion into the coast



Or Jeanne....my god no model saw that loopty loop crap 48 hours out
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#4271 Postby jlauderdal » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:39 pm

supercane4867 wrote:18z Euro simply has no idea on what the hell is going on at the end
Systems stall, the euro could be correct or at least close
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4272 Postby WilmingtonSandbar » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:40 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:If these 18z runs of a stall just off the Fla coast verified, it would be absolutely devastating for the NW Bahamas, not to mention 24-30 hours of hurricane force gust on the Florida coast, this really does remind me of Frances in 2004, models did very similar things before finally coming into agreement on a slow wnw motion into the coast



It reminds me more of Floyd in 1999
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4273 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:41 pm

I have my doubts models have a grasp on this 4 days out.

That cone is gonna come back
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4274 Postby Bocadude85 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:42 pm

WilmingtonSandbar wrote:
Bocadude85 wrote:If these 18z runs of a stall just off the Fla coast verified, it would be absolutely devastating for the NW Bahamas, not to mention 24-30 hours of hurricane force gust on the Florida coast, this really does remind me of Frances in 2004, models did very similar things before finally coming into agreement on a slow wnw motion into the coast



It reminds me more of Floyd in 1999


I don’t remember the models showing a stall in the NW Bahamas for Floyd...
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4275 Postby Carolinagirl18 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:44 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:I’m not buying that 18z run, no way that’s sitting there for 38 hours...

Anything's possible florence sat over us for 3 days last year.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4276 Postby supercane4867 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:44 pm

Dorian is no Floyd. The setup is completely different
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4277 Postby Weatherboy1 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:48 pm

supercane4867 wrote:Dorian is no Floyd. The setup is completely different


Correct. There was a front swinging down that was going to grab Floyd and turn him north no matter what. Was only a question of timing and how far west he got before the turn. With Dorian, there is no powerful front. It's more like the steering currents die off at day 3-4, and it's an open question which steering influence will take over. Hence the extended pause showing up on models and/or the big swings from run to run.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4278 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:50 pm

Amazing model swings just 4 days out. Check out the 00Z tracks. Night and day from 24 hours ago. IN fact TVCN recurves with no US landfall:

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4279 Postby Hammy » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:51 pm

Weatherboy1 wrote:
supercane4867 wrote:Dorian is no Floyd. The setup is completely different


Correct. There was a front swinging down that was going to grab Floyd and turn him north no matter what. Was only a question of timing and how far west he got before the turn. With Dorian, there is no powerful front. It's more like the steering currents die off at day 3-4, and it's an open question which steering influence will take over. Hence the extended pause showing up on models and/or the big swings from run to run.


Is that why there's so little consistency and such a large back and fourth variation
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4280 Postby drezee » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:53 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:yeah dont sweat it.. only 38 hours parked over Grand bahama.....

https://i.ibb.co/QJqDH1L/ecmwf-dorian05l-atlantic-90.png

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