ATL: DORIAN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4161 Postby Hurrilurker » Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:58 am

HDGator wrote:
ozonepete wrote:This just won't stop. Look at that clear perfectly round eye and the colder cloud tops (in whites) starting to develop in the eyewall. And the really round symmetric CDO. This is scary.

https://i.imgur.com/3mLbssU.jpg

I wish we could see that eye on visible. I have to think it's quite amazing.


Not high res but still impressive...

https://imgur.com/a/JQT8G1O

Pretty funny too because the whole thing really has an eye shape right now and the actual eye looks like the pupil, with the outflow as the lashes/brows.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4162 Postby NotSparta » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:06 am

You know this thing is going to look great all night, then start degrading right as recon gets there :lol:
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4163 Postby EquusStorm » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:11 am

Just checked satellite after spacing out for a few hours and WOW. It just keeps getting more and more yikes. :eek:
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4165 Postby HDGator » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:15 am

NotSparta wrote:You know this thing is going to look great all night, then start degrading right as recon gets there :lol:

No recon for you.
:cry:
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4166 Postby cdavis6287 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:17 am

xtyphooncyclonex wrote:Haven't posted here in a while... I'm quite worried about my family and friends clustered around Vero Beach and St. Lucie who have not experienced a powerful hurricane directly in a while (not counting Matthew), and a gas shortage as a result of people filling up their tanks sounds concerning as well aside from the storm itself. Hope everything goes well. Stay safe everyone :)


Hello and I understand your fear. I live in southern Port Saint Lucie, which is about 40 miles south of Vero.

Given the models, whew, kinda a release of fresh Air.

Right now I personally, again personally, do not seeadirect hit on the eastern Fl US coasty
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4167 Postby HDGator » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:24 am


Based on that, I think that we'll find quite a different beast when recon gets back out there in 3 hours. It looks like the wind field is substantially spreading.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4168 Postby Hurrilurker » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:32 am

Even better shot of that incredible eye:

https://imgur.com/a/JQT8G1O

Look at those clouds surrounding the eye, the eye looks super deep.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4169 Postby KWT » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:39 am

Big stable eye on Dorian now, will be interesting to see just where the pressure is when recon goes back in, wouldn't be shocked if we are into the 920s.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4170 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:48 am

KWT wrote:Big stable eye on Dorian now, will be interesting to see just where the pressure is when recon goes back in, wouldn't be shocked if we are into the 920s.

I would be comfortable calling for pressures near 920mb if the CDO was cooler. ADT still near T5.7 952mb and verified well with what recon found in 948mb.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4171 Postby KWT » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:53 am

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KWT wrote:Big stable eye on Dorian now, will be interesting to see just where the pressure is when recon goes back in, wouldn't be shocked if we are into the 920s.

I would be comfortable calling for pressures near 920mb if the CDO was cooler. ADT still near T5.7 952mb and verified well with what recon found in 948mb.


Maybe, but then again the eye looks far more stable then it did yesterdays recon run and I feel the eyewall also looks far more impressive then it did as well. We will see, but I'd be mighty shocked if its still lingering up near 950mbs given its presentation.

However, it wouldn't be the first time I've been very wrong either!!

Looks like Dorian's forward speed is still faster than forecast, nearly at the 12z position the HWRF has at 08z (and a touch south of there as well, though motion still has a fair amount of northward overall.)
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4172 Postby senorpepr » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:59 am

For those hungry for recon, NOAA 42 is powered up at Lakeland, Florida, getting ready for the next mission. Mission 22 should depart around 09Z (5 am EDT).
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4173 Postby SootyTern » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:13 am

When I look at the lines on the models I can feel a sense of relief here in extreme SE FL but when I look at the actual storm and what it is doing this morning, it scares me. Feel like this is going to be a real close shave even down here. With so many other storms in the past we have been waiting for that north turn to begin from a west movement, and it gets delayed. Yet the NHC is so good with their track, and high wind probabilities for our area have decreased a lot in the last 24 hours. Shutters are going up today anyways.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4174 Postby LarryWx » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:14 am

Estimating at 72.4 W at 4 AM and him reaching 72.8 W at 6 AM vs 8 AM NHC prog. Moving 14 mph avg over last 5 hrs vs NHC prog of 11. Got to watch this because faster would mean further W at expected stall. Has already moved 15 miles more west vs prog over just last 5 hours or 3 per hour. If this were to keep up for 24, that would be 72 crucial miles. Maybe it will slow later but certainly not yet.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4175 Postby abajan » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:24 am

Blown Away wrote:https://i.imgur.com/1AygPiM.gif
https://i.imgur.com/RaEaA66.jpg


11pm: NHC disco says Dorian moving WNW or 300 degrees at 9 knots... Looks like closer to 270 to me?


5pm: NHC had Dorian passing 72W at 0600z... Appears that will happen a little sooner...


Just my observations... :D


Now that you've mentioned it, here's a handy compass designation calculator I bookmarked years ago.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4176 Postby Blinhart » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:30 am

My gut keeps on telling me that this will be taking a Hurricane A type track, it just has the look and feel of him.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4177 Postby abajan » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:31 am

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4178 Postby Shell Mound » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:32 am

At this point, a stall over the northern Bahamas and then OTS seems to be most likely. Since the start of DORIAN's life span, global models have consistently shown a series of highly progressive shortwave troughs rotating over the top of a stout but narrow shortwave ridge, with intermittent expansions and contractions of the ridging between each successive shortwave. Normally, major hurricanes that form in the MDR and hit the U.S. require a blocky (that is, wavy), stagnant pattern rather than the progressive flow are seeing. Note that, despite the emergence of cool neutral ENSO or even La Niña, there is a very strong +PMM/+PDO pattern evident in the Pacific, which correlates with a +PNA (West-Coast ridging with downstream trough axis over the Great Lakes/near the East Coast). Plus, the persistent -NAO is coming into play, given the position of mid- to upper-level features. This year is very different from 2004 in that the East-Coast trough is more persistent due to the -NAO and warm North Pacific to northward of the Equator. So I think DORIAN will most likely miss the CONUS. However, the northern Bahamas will take a devastating hit.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4179 Postby SoupBone » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:37 am

The NW quad looks like it's getting hit with a bit of shear or dry air, probably nothing major, but a bit of that section is getting eroded.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4180 Postby Airboy » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:38 am

SoupBone wrote:The NW quad looks like it's getting hit with a bit of shear or dry air, probably nothing major, but a bit of that section is getting eroded.


Yeah, I was looking at that also.
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