ATL: DORIAN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7121 Postby northjaxpro » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:25 am

GCANE wrote:CIMSS is showing a north steer for Cat 5 intensity due to a ULL to the south and ULH to the SE.
I don't know, Diabatic Ridge directly to the SE from Dorian's outflow will likely put a lid on that.
Also with Dorian weakening, steering will likely come from the next notch down which at this time is weakly to the west.

https://i.imgur.com/fexvoVQ.png

https://i.imgur.com/xf1jdtQ.png



That is a narrow window for Dorian to try to move through i hope this trough currently will be enough to pul Dorian out of here bh Thursday. I hope this weakness will do the trick for all of our sakes thats for darn sure!!
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7122 Postby NDG » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:30 am

5 hr radar loop of Dorian, which has almost come to a complete stop, now jogging a little NW during the past couple of ours, definitely EWR going on so I am sure recon will find it weaker this morning. Very important to watch how far west it slowly moves over the next 18-24 hours, the farther west it goes the closer it will get to the east coast when it starts finally moving to the NW to NNW tomorrow.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7123 Postby Jr0d » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:40 am

GCANE wrote:The upcoming trough wont do squat.


https://i.imgur.com/Af3JClD.png


Boy I hope you are wrong.

My fear is Dorian missing the first trough, then a small but strong enough ridge building in, pushing Dorian SW then west into Florida before the next trough grabs him.

My interpretation of the some of the model runs led me to this scenario. Fortunately it is unlikely but not impossible in my amateur opinion.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7124 Postby 3090 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:41 am

northjaxpro wrote:
GCANE wrote:CIMSS is showing a north steer for Cat 5 intensity due to a ULL to the south and ULH to the SE.
I don't know, Diabatic Ridge directly to the SE from Dorian's outflow will likely put a lid on that.
Also with Dorian weakening, steering will likely come from the next notch down which at this time is weakly to the west.

https://i.imgur.com/fexvoVQ.png

https://i.imgur.com/xf1jdtQ.png



That is a narrow window for Dorian to try to move through i hope this trough currently will be enough to pul Dorian out of here bh Thursday. I hope this weakness will do the trick for all of our sakes thats for darn sure!!


No chance Dorian misses his opportunity to escape northwestward...etc., and then ultimately out to sea, is there? What would be your guess, from a timing standpoint? A window of hours?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7125 Postby abajan » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:45 am

NDG wrote:5 hr radar loop of Dorian, which has almost come to a complete stop, now jogging a little NW during the past couple of ours, definitely EWR going on so I am sure recon will find it weaker this morning. Very important to watch how far west it slowly moves over the next 18-24 hours, the farther west it goes the closer it will get to the east coast when it starts finally moving to the NW to NNW tomorrow.

https://i.imgur.com/oFZm9HD.gif

Also important to watch how much bigger it gets after the EWRC.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7126 Postby GCANE » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:54 am

IR and radar showing a movement to the north
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7127 Postby catskillfire51 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:03 am

The first trough was supposed to kill the steering, which it clearly has as Dorian is barely moving right now, it will bounce around different steering components for the next 18-24 hrs and then the second trough is supposed to come through. A very big picture and a lot of moving parts but the first trough did its job already in my eyes
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7128 Postby 3090 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:03 am

GCANE wrote:IR and radar showing a movement to the north


Yes and let the movement pick up forward speed.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7129 Postby xironman » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:05 am

The upcoming EWRC should allow it to grow a bit in size as it meanders around.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7130 Postby catskillfire51 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:08 am

xironman wrote:The upcoming EWRC should allow it to grow a bit in size as it meanders around.


Im wondering how long it will take and how fast it can bounce back being partially over land.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7131 Postby Nimbus » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:12 am

abajan wrote:
NDG wrote:5 hr radar loop of Dorian, which has almost come to a complete stop, now jogging a little NW during the past couple of ours, definitely EWR going on so I am sure recon will find it weaker this morning. Very important to watch how far west it slowly moves over the next 18-24 hours, the farther west it goes the closer it will get to the east coast when it starts finally moving to the NW to NNW tomorrow.

https://i.imgur.com/oFZm9HD.gif

Also important to watch how much bigger it gets after the EWRC.


Cat 2 winds in the outer eyewall, hopefully Freeport has prepped for that.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7132 Postby AdamFirst » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:19 am

Its definitely still moving, looks to be generally a western crawl. The eye will likely pass over Cormorant Point (the pointy looking north end of the island) within the next couple hours. Freeport will start to get that inner eyewall in earnest.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7133 Postby GCANE » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:19 am

Center of the eye may be over water.
Not really seeing a well defined moat on radar.
May spin back up once southern eyewall gets offshore.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7134 Postby GCANE » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:26 am

TPW infeed from the GOM seems to be thinning.
Also, spin up of 92L may suck some juice away from Dorian as well.
We may have already seen Dorian's max intensity.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7135 Postby xironman » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:27 am

The NOAA plane stopped transmitting anyone know why?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7136 Postby Tailspin » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:28 am

 https://twitter.com/i/status/1168483727497973761




Atm this is all that really matters.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7137 Postby NDG » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:34 am

Still just an unbelievable satellite presentation on first vis picture this morning despite being almost stalled this morning, but total devastation continuing in Grand Bahama Island.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7138 Postby NDG » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:39 am

xironman wrote:The NOAA plane stopped transmitting anyone know why?


I don't see a NOAA recon in the air any more, there was one that landed a few minutes ago that was sampling the atmosphere around Dorian since 2 AM.
AF recon was supposed to be in Dorian this morning but has turned around back to Keesler AFB twice already.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7139 Postby otowntiger » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:40 am

GCANE wrote:IR and radar showing a movement to the north

Yep pretty clear progression northward- however it’s described- whether its actual motion, a wobble, drift, jog etc. it has gained latitude and every half mile is important at this point. My belief (hope) is that the turn could be ahead of schedule and could have positive effects up the road. Either way It has stalled sooner than forecast and a more easterly pivot point would certainly be a good thing.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7140 Postby xironman » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:43 am

NDG wrote:
xironman wrote:The NOAA plane stopped transmitting anyone know why?


I don't see a NOAA recon in the air any more, there was one that landed a few minutes ago that was sampling the atmosphere around Dorian since 2 AM.
AF recon was supposed to be in Dorian this morning but has turned around back to Keesler AFB twice already.


Your right, I expected it to go back to New Orleans
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