plasticup wrote:wxman57 wrote:Initial reports from both planes inside Dorian are that winds are around 95 kts, but there could be a few pockets of higher wind. I think one of planes reported the formation of a layer of ice on the ocean surface due to all the upwelling of cool water, but that cannot be confirmed.
If this was posted by anyone else I would be cracking up with laughter. But since it's you... is that even possible? I know hurricanes are heat-exchangers, but that just seems ridiculous. The latent heat of fusion of water (for the phase change from 0 celcius water to 0 celcius ice) is 334 joules per gram. That is three times more than is needed to cool the water from 27 degrees to 0 degrees celcius (27 * 4.184 J/g = 112.968 J/g).
Honestly, doesn't pass the sniff test.
In terms of a physical science perspective it makes sense, of course very extreme result of conservation but 185 mph is extreme, i.e. for any action there is an equal an opposite reaction.
This is actually quite interesting and kind of speaks to the importance of considering the ocean depth as a boundary condition within the PDEs which explain the underlying mathematics which create all the gfs, euro etc models. I'm not so sure if the ice thing is real but definitely think the shallow waters had major effect here... I know in past a correlation of shallower water & small storms RI has been observed, and I wonder if we now have an illustration of mega storm rapidly de intensity in shallow?
But one cannot simply understand a spaghetti model or the cone of uncertainty...
