ATL: DORIAN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#8421 Postby Highteeld » Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:55 am

1900hurricane wrote:
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supercane4867 wrote:
This microwave presentation reminds me the WPAC systems after multiple EWRCs. I believe it's quite rare to see a large well defined eyewall like this in the Atlantic

Jebi part II

Trami is actually the WPac system last year that comes to mind for me. That one also sat for a while and dealt with upwelling and ended up forming a larger and stable/steady core once it began moving again. Of course Trami was even larger than Dorian!

https://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tcdat/tc2018/WP/WP282018/png/89H-Legacy/201809280016_WP282018_gmi_89H-Legacy_90.0_covg75p2_res1km.png

https://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tcdat/tc2019/AL/AL052019/png/89H-Legacy/f17/201909041201_AL052019_ssmis_f17_89H-Legacy_90.0_covg100p0_res1km.png



Good point. Forgot about that one -- so many Cat 5's in the WPAC last year they all became a blur, minus Yutu and Manghut.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#8422 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:58 am

NWS Newport predicting gusts up to 120mph for the Outer Banks

 https://twitter.com/nwsmoreheadcity/status/1169292224791597058


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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#8423 Postby GCANE » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:13 pm

Couple lightning strikes on the eyewall.
Good sign intensification underway.
The closer the towers move to the center, the warmer the core becomes.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#8424 Postby Airboy » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:15 pm

Pressure looks like it going down again, at least slowly.
Extrap. Sfc. Press: 962.3 mb (28.42 inHg)
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#8425 Postby HDGator » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:17 pm

supercane4867 wrote:NWS Newport predicting gusts up to 120mph for the Outer Banks

https://twitter.com/nwsmoreheadcity/status/1169292224791597058

That lines up with the current Euro model that has 119mph max 10m gusts on the Outer Banks at 21z Friday.
The current GFS has max 10m gusts on the Outer Banks at 99mph at 15z Friday.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#8426 Postby Nimbus » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:17 pm

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toad strangler wrote:Dorian is barely scraping the FL coast. He is licking the coast.


Thank God he is only "licking " us as Dorian passes by as you put it. Once again it appears that the Jax area is going to dodge yet another MAJOR bullet for the most part!!


You still have power in Jacksonville but that feeder band a few hundred yards off the beach probably has some 50 knot winds.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#8427 Postby sponger » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:33 pm

Amazing how close the core of the storm came to the coast. Got to give the new GFS the win! King Euro has a potent rival.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#8428 Postby MGC » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:38 pm

Eye is starting to clear out on sat loop. Look for slow steady intensification. But, I doubt Dorian makes it back to Cat-3. With such a large eye it will be difficult for the winds to increase. Expansive wind field will cause extensive flooding along the coast......MGC
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#8429 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:54 pm

MGC wrote:Eye is starting to clear out on sat loop. Look for slow steady intensification. But, I doubt Dorian makes it back to Cat-3. With such a large eye it will be difficult for the winds to increase. Expansive wind field will cause extensive flooding along the coast......MGC

Actually I won't be surprised if Dorian somehow makes it back to CAT3 again. Kinda like Wilma after stalling over the Yucatan but still managed to re-intensify while racing to the NE toward FL. Dorian got that similar look as well

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#8430 Postby tropicwatch » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:56 pm

MGC wrote:Eye is starting to clear out on sat loop. Look for slow steady intensification. But, I doubt Dorian makes it back to Cat-3. With such a large eye it will be difficult for the winds to increase. Expansive wind field will cause extensive flooding along the coast......MGC


The diameter of the eye is down a little. Now only 44 nautical miles, instead of 55 8-)
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#8431 Postby b0tzy29 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:58 pm

Should this thing start to turn like real soon? Looks like its moving NW at the moment.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#8432 Postby toad strangler » Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:02 pm

supercane4867 wrote:
MGC wrote:Eye is starting to clear out on sat loop. Look for slow steady intensification. But, I doubt Dorian makes it back to Cat-3. With such a large eye it will be difficult for the winds to increase. Expansive wind field will cause extensive flooding along the coast......MGC

Actually I won't be surprised if Dorian somehow makes it back to CAT3 again. Kinda like Wilma after stalling over the Yucatan but still managed to re-intensify while racing to the NE toward FL. Dorian got that similar look as well

https://i.imgur.com/MKxm6pC.jpg


eye looks pretty far off the coast in that shot.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#8433 Postby Vdogg » Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:03 pm

b0tzy29 wrote:Should this thing start to turn like real soon? Looks like its moving NW at the moment.

That was predicted. All the models have this storm literally hugging the coast. The turn will come very late. That's why South Carolina has to be wary.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#8434 Postby Vdogg » Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:07 pm

Airboy wrote:Pressure looks like it going down again, at least slowly.
Extrap. Sfc. Press: 962.3 mb (28.42 inHg)

That's 2 mb in 2 hours. Say we have a another 15 hours of good conditions, that gets us down to the 940s if it keeps going that rate. He can definitely hit 3 today.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#8435 Postby GCANE » Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:11 pm

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#8436 Postby PandaCitrus » Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:21 pm

Dorian is looking the best he's looked since leaving the Bahamas. Eye is starting to get more circular and perhaps will clear out within the next few hours. Cold Cloud tops are spreading.

We may have a problem here with re intensification to a Cat 3 as it continues to travel along the warm Gulf Stream waters. Re intensification up to Wilma levels in Florida - Cat 3 125 MPH possible IMO.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#8437 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:26 pm

I think the storm being so strong and then weakening like this is giving people a false sense of security. Couple that with the uncertainty of how close it gets to the coast. A cat 3 is still nothing to laugh at and anyone on the NC coast especially should be prepared.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#8438 Postby PandaCitrus » Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:28 pm

Dorian is basically following the Gulf Stream paralleling 80 Degrees. This water has among the highest heat potential Dorian has had in his entire life. If he can work out his structural issues from stalling over the Bahamas, look out.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#8439 Postby Ken711 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:30 pm

PandaCitrus wrote:Dorian is basically following the Gulf Stream paralleling 80 Degrees. This water has among the highest heat potential Dorian has had in his entire life. If he can work out his structural issues from stalling over the Bahamas, look out.

https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/dataphod1/work/HHP/NEW/2019246at.jpg


But isn't Dorian suppose to start facing more shear as well as it proceeds up the coast?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#8440 Postby PandaCitrus » Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:32 pm

NHC said in its discussion there will be near perfect conditions until it gets to North Carolina.
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