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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#521 Postby StormLogic » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:20 pm

GCANE wrote:That is absolutely the fastest spin up I have ever seen.

https://i.imgur.com/UDiyABf.png


4 hrs and 10 mins it spun up from being almost "dead jim"
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#522 Postby LarryWx » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:20 pm

NDG wrote:Where recon found the new LLC.

https://i.imgur.com/MDkpvyy.gif


If the new center is confirmed to be down at 17.1N, 65.9W as of 16:35 Z, that would be like 100 miles SW of the 6Z Euro hour 6 and way south of the 12Z UKMET as it had her already all the way up to 17.8N way back at 12Z!
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#523 Postby sma10 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:21 pm

chris_fit wrote:Peak (10s) Flt. Lvl. Wind: 53 kts (61.0 mph)
SFMR Peak (10s) Sfc. Wind: 47 kts (54.1 mph)

Cmon '57 - Just a bite of that crow! :grrr: :D :grrr: :D


Take a little pity, Chris :cheesy:

In all seriousness tho, he is paid to do this and has great accountability. I don't envy him having to forecast impacts on PR tonight or the next week or so either.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#524 Postby otowntiger » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:22 pm

GCANE wrote:That is absolutely the fastest spin up I have ever seen.

https://i.imgur.com/UDiyABf.png
Wow. Is that really the center where that 'hole' is? I can't imagine it is. Need a few more frames to see, could just be an arbitrary break in the cloud pattern and not really a the center of circulation?
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#525 Postby sma10 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:22 pm

LarryWx wrote:
NDG wrote:Where recon found the new LLC.

https://i.imgur.com/MDkpvyy.gif


If the new center is confirmed to be down at 17.1N, 65.9W as of 16:35 Z, that would be like 100 miles SW of the 6Z Euro hour 6 and way south of the 12Z UKMET as it had her already all the way up to 17.8N way back at 12Z!


Yeah I do not envy NHC right now, they take their job seriously and you can read it in Stewart's discussion this morning - these guys are going to have to do a LOT of nowcasting.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#526 Postby GCANE » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:24 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Is that dark spot the new center?

That is where recon is heading
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#527 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:24 pm

Just got back. Man the llc has exploded and relocated.

Crazy hownfast its happening now.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#528 Postby galaxy401 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:24 pm

Looks like Karen took offense to the comments earlier this morning and is bombing out now. Right before it crosses Puerto Rico too...
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#529 Postby NDG » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:25 pm

Too bad the recon has not communicated the latest pass to confirm the new location of the LLC.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#530 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:25 pm

Karen is definitely getting her act together this afternoon. As NDG mentioned, I am very concerned about convergence over the island of Puerto Rico, which could lead to major flooding concerns there.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#531 Postby chris_fit » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:26 pm

sma10 wrote:
chris_fit wrote:Peak (10s) Flt. Lvl. Wind: 53 kts (61.0 mph)
SFMR Peak (10s) Sfc. Wind: 47 kts (54.1 mph)

Cmon '57 - Just a bite of that crow! :grrr: :D :grrr: :D


Take a little pity, Chris :cheesy:

In all seriousness tho, he is paid to do this and has great accountability. I don't envy him having to forecast impacts on PR tonight or the next week or so either.



WXMAN57 is one of the reasons I visit this forum. He is a wealth of knowledge and I thank him for sharing his vast array of knowledge on this stuff. My post was just a little poke/nudge just for shoots and giggles.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#532 Postby GCANE » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:26 pm

otowntiger wrote:
GCANE wrote:That is absolutely the fastest spin up I have ever seen.

https://i.imgur.com/UDiyABf.png
Wow. Is that really the center where that 'hole' is? I can't imagine it is. Need a few more frames to see, could just be an arbitrary break in the cloud pattern and not really a the center of circulation?


Gotta be careful watching this. Cirrus outflow from towers could obscure it.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#533 Postby rbaker55 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:26 pm

I like gators post he is even minded, doesn't right off systems like others do just because they run into buzzsaw shear at times. We have seen numerous times both sides of the coin, where systems go "poof" and others like "Dorian" and maybe now with "Karen" ramp up fast. One thing for sure the shear in 24 hours went down alot, most of it east of Karen because of outflow from Jerry.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#534 Postby chris_fit » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:27 pm

Of course Recon has to have issues communicating now.... hopefully it's just communication and nothing serious
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#535 Postby sma10 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:27 pm

Also this has to make you at least question the near term (days 1 and 2) model runs. How does Karen behave the next 48 hrs if the system is vertically deep as opposed to a wispy wave?
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#536 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:29 pm

I don’t know...I see recon which says Karen has intensified, but man, those surface obs from the workstation...
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#537 Postby SFLcane » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:33 pm

GCANE wrote:That is absolutely the fastest spin up I have ever seen.

https://i.imgur.com/UDiyABf.png


Wait what...is that a CDO developing i see?
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#538 Postby LarryWx » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:34 pm

sma10 wrote:
LarryWx wrote:
NDG wrote:Where recon found the new LLC.

https://i.imgur.com/MDkpvyy.gif


If the new center is confirmed to be down at 17.1N, 65.9W as of 16:35 Z, that would be like 100 miles SW of the 6Z Euro hour 6 and way south of the 12Z UKMET as it had her already all the way up to 17.8N way back at 12Z!


Yeah I do not envy NHC right now, they take their job seriously and you can read it in Stewart's discussion this morning - these guys are going to have to do a LOT of nowcasting.


I know I’m stating the obvious, but the modeling will be in more question than usual until a true center is confirmed and model initialization can be compared to that center.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#539 Postby NDG » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:34 pm

C-Man station in St Croix reported TS Force winds last hour.

09 24 12:00 pm S 28.0 36.9 - - - - 29.84 +0.00 81.5 85.3

https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page. ... tion=ltbv3
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#540 Postby chris_fit » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:36 pm

PR Radar - not saved - live view....

https://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.p ... 1&loop=yes
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