ATL: LORENZO - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: LORENZO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#101 Postby Astromanía » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:15 am

DioBrando wrote:
Astromanía wrote:Something for sure, Lorenzo will be a better looking cyclone compared to Dorian :lol: :lol:, it will become one of the most beautiful hurricanes in ATL in all its expected life

Will I become annular or somethin'?

You better do it :lol: I'm rooting for you!
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Re: ATL: LORENZO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#102 Postby DioBrando » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:18 am

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DioBrando wrote:
Astromanía wrote:Something for sure, Lorenzo will be a better looking cyclone compared to Dorian :lol: :lol:, it will become one of the most beautiful hurricanes in ATL in all its expected life

Will I become annular or somethin'?

You better do it :lol: I'm rooting for you!

I'm gonna be a supermodel hurricane :P
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Re: ATL: LORENZO - Hurricane - Discussion

#103 Postby Ken711 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:31 am


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Lorenzo will remain far out in the Atlantic but will likely become a major hurricane. There is some potential for Category 5 intensity depending upon its ability to rapidly intensify.

Model central pressures of < 930 mb are consistent with Category 4+

No threat to land.
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Re: ATL: LORENZO - Hurricane - Discussion

#104 Postby TallyTracker » Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:08 am

Lorenzo is massive! It covers close to 1/3 of the width of the Atlantic MDR between the Lesser Antilles and Africa! :eek: :D
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Re: ATL: LORENZO - Hurricane - Discussion

#105 Postby HurricaneAndre2008 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:38 am

TXNT26 KNES 251222
TCSNTL

A. 13L (LORENZO)

B. 25/1200Z

C. 13.9N

D. 34.5W

E. THREE/GOES-E

F. T4.5/4.5/D1.0/24HRS

G. IR/EIR/VIS

H. REMARKS...CENTER IS ESTIMATED TO BE EMBEDDED IN B RESULTING IN A
DT OF 5.0. MET AND PT ARE 4.5. FT IS BASED ON MET DUE TO UNCERTAINTY IN
THE PRECISE CENTER LOCATION.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

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Re: ATL: LORENZO - Hurricane - Discussion

#106 Postby KWT » Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:49 am

The odds of any system this far east beocming a cat-5 are utterly tiny, even one with a decent set-up aloft. I think there may have been just 1 even within a 1000 miles of this.

With that being said, clearly going to be a powerful hurricane, I'd guess something like 120-125kts would be where I'd go for. There is some pretty warm waters north of 20N which Lorenzo will move into (a solid 28c area that Lorenzo will tap into for a solid 24-36hrs), so could be lasting quite some time in that 110-130ks type range.

But beating Dorian...no chance...that was one of the most impressive N.Atlantic hurricanes ever and was probably 2hrs from going sub 900mbs...Lorenzo could only dream of going quite that low!
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Re: ATL: LORENZO - Hurricane - Discussion

#107 Postby Kazmit » Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:50 am

Looking like a WPac typhoon this morning.
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Re: ATL: LORENZO - Hurricane - Discussion

#108 Postby CyclonicFury » Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:55 am

Chances of Lorenzo passing Dorian in intensity are extremely low. Lorenzo will likely never get into recon range, so NHC will have to use Dvorak estimates for intensity. In addition, SSTs in Lorenzo's path are cooler than Dorian had. I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of Lorenzo reaching a low-end Category 5, but I think a Category 3/4 peak is far more likely.
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Re: ATL: LORENZO - Hurricane - Discussion

#109 Postby TallyTracker » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:09 am

Cat 5 hurricanes are rare enough in the hot bath waters of the Caribbean, Gulf, and west Atlantic. Lorenzo is highly unlikely to reach that kind of intensity. As Hurricanes Julia and Fred showed a few years ago, Category 4 is possible. That’s the max I think is even really probable. A Cat 5 in the east Atlantic would require perfect conditions and an insanely unstable atmosphere. Conditions just don’t appear to be that good.
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Re: ATL: LORENZO - Hurricane - Discussion

#110 Postby Chris90 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:40 am

I'm pretty sure 1900hurricane mentioned it earlier in the thread, but I believe Isabel is the only storm in the ATL that achieved Cat 5 purely on satellite estimates. It's highly doubtful that Lorenzo will achieve that, and extremely unlikely that he will beat Dorian. Dorian's eyewall dropsondes were ridiculous, plus the fact that he produced several 170kt+ SFMR values, and his satellite presentation was off the charts. It looked like a kid dropped a fidget spinner in the Atlantic with how fast Dorian was spinning. Plus, his microwave presentation was off the charts as well. It's not often a storm like that shows up in any basin.

I do believe however that Lorenzo could produce a satellite signature worthy of 135kts from the NHC though. It's just they rarely go 140 without recon.
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Re: ATL: LORENZO - Hurricane - Discussion

#111 Postby somethingfunny » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:46 am

Chris90 wrote:I'm pretty sure 1900hurricane mentioned it earlier in the thread, but I believe Isabel is the only storm in the ATL that achieved Cat 5 purely on satellite estimates. It's highly doubtful that Lorenzo will achieve that, and extremely unlikely that he will beat Dorian. Dorian's eyewall dropsondes were ridiculous, plus the fact that he produced several 170kt+ SFMR values, and his satellite presentation was off the charts. It looked like a kid dropped a fidget spinner in the Atlantic with how fast Dorian was spinning. Plus, his microwave presentation was off the charts as well. It's not often a storm like that shows up in any basin.

I do believe however that Lorenzo could produce a satellite signature worthy of 135kts from the NHC though. It's just they rarely go 140 without recon.


Sometimes not even with recon :sun:
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Re: ATL: LORENZO - Hurricane - Discussion

#112 Postby 1900hurricane » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:54 am

I think Lorenzo's large footprint managed to pull some dry air originating from the north into the circulation, preventing rapid intensification in the near term by really hampering the west side in particular. Before that dry air got ingested though, it was ready to go.

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Re: ATL: LORENZO - Hurricane - Discussion

#113 Postby wx98 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:40 am

...LORENZO CONTINUES TO STRENGTHEN... ...EXPECTED TO BECOME A MAJOR HURRICANE BY THURSDAY...
11:00 AM AST Wed Sep 25
Location: 14.1°N 35.1°W
Moving: WNW at 17 mph
Min pressure: 983 mb
Max sustained: 85 mph
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Re: ATL: LORENZO - Hurricane - Discussion

#114 Postby Buck » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:57 am

Looking good this morning!
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Re: ATL: LORENZO - Hurricane - Discussion

#115 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:00 am

Lorenzo reminds me a lot of Igor in 2010, to be honest.
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Re: ATL: LORENZO - Hurricane - Discussion

#116 Postby Nimbus » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:59 am

Models still showing an early recurve so Lorenzo is free to be all he can be.
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Re: ATL: LORENZO - Hurricane - Discussion

#117 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:32 pm

NOAA will fly Gonzo and two more planes to do research on Lorenzo.

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Re: ATL: LORENZO - Hurricane - Discussion

#118 Postby 1900hurricane » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:36 pm

Best news I've heard today!
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Re: ATL: LORENZO - Hurricane - Discussion

#119 Postby StruThiO » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:38 pm

Those missions are exclusively upper-level right?
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Re: ATL: LORENZO - Hurricane - Discussion

#120 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:42 pm

StruThiO wrote:Those missions are exclusively upper-level right?


Yes,upper.
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