ATL: NESTOR - Post-Tropical - Discussion
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone
Surface obs indicate that the center, weak as it is, is passing north of the mid Gulf buoy and is near 26.2N / 89.8W. Highly sheared, elongated low. Weaker than it was a few hours ago. This is not a strengthening TS. Had a 40kt ship report south of the center last hour.

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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone
NDG wrote:Wow, not the type of wx to be out on the deck of this cruise ship.Tides and Currents Weather Stations Pressure Air Temp Water Temp Dewpoint Dewpoint Depression Visibility Wind Speed Wind Dir Waves Ship Positions
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Operator: Carnival Cruise Lines
Last reported at 2019-Oct-18 15:00 UTC. Time now 2019-Oct-18 17:14 UTC.
Position N 24°42' W 088°54'.
Type: Ship. MMSI: 353486000.
Wind from 200 at 45 knots
Barometer 999.6 mb
That's the ship on the image below SSE of the center.
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone
That vort, unfortunately, is rotating wsw or sw currently so it is rotating around a larger circ to the south still.
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone
Poor guy doesn't know that it is stronger than a tropical depression.
https://twitter.com/bamajohne/status/1185223408558063616
https://twitter.com/bamajohne/status/1185223408558063616
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone
wxman57 wrote:NDG wrote:Wow, not the type of wx to be out on the deck of this cruise ship.Tides and Currents Weather Stations Pressure Air Temp Water Temp Dewpoint Dewpoint Depression Visibility Wind Speed Wind Dir Waves Ship Positions
Fantasy
Operator: Carnival Cruise Lines
Last reported at 2019-Oct-18 15:00 UTC. Time now 2019-Oct-18 17:14 UTC.
Position N 24°42' W 088°54'.
Type: Ship. MMSI: 353486000.
Wind from 200 at 45 knots
Barometer 999.6 mb
That's the ship on the image below SSE of the center.
http://wxman57.com/images/16e.JPG
Thanks 57 for posting this satellite image. Wow, you certainly don't see an actual ship image on satellite very often. A very unique and cool image!!
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone
Hmm, three Carnival cruise ships were caught on the path of the storm, somebody gave them the wrong forecast, lol.


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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone
...DISTURBANCE BECOMES TROPICAL STORM NESTOR... ...DANGEROUS STORM SURGE AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXPECTED ALONG PORTIONS OF THE NORTHERN GULF COAST LATER TODAY AND TONIGHT...
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Re: ATL: NESTOR - Tropical Storm - Discussion
so NHC went with that vort rotating around. lets see what happens to it..
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Re: ATL: NESTOR - Tropical Storm - Discussion
FINALLY NHC upgrades to Nestor!!
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Re: ATL: NESTOR - Tropical Storm - Discussion
northjaxpro wrote:FINALLY NHC upgrades to Nestor!!
I guess after 30 vorts.. you just pick one and hope for the best ? lol
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Re: ATL: NESTOR - Tropical Storm - Discussion
northjaxpro wrote:FINALLY NHC upgrades to Nestor!!
The low is weak but it's there plus given the impacts I'm sure the NHC wants to convey the seriousness of this system.
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Re: ATL: NESTOR - Tropical Storm - Discussion
No doubt an "ehh, close enough" situation with a baroclinically driven blob. The sustained deep convection probably helps.
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Re: ATL: NESTOR - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Aric Dunn wrote:so NHC went with that vort rotating around. lets see what happens to it..
I am not surprised. That is the one I think the models are latching onto rotating around then heading NE. I just don't think the convection will be pulled into that center. That convection is coming inland further East.
If I was in Tampa I would be keeping an eye on that eastern side that is were all the action is going to be when it gets close to landfall.
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Re: ATL: NESTOR - Tropical Storm - Discussion
hurricaneCW wrote:northjaxpro wrote:FINALLY NHC upgrades to Nestor!!
The low is weak but it's there plus given the impacts I'm sure the NHC wants to convey the seriousness of this system.
NHC had to go ahead and upgrade this thing as it is closing in fast to approach to the coast and for the sake of serious need for public to react to the potential of this becoming a more serious situation.
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Re: ATL: NESTOR - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Plenty of TS force winds close to the CoC.
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173700 2545N 08841W 9847 00148 0013 +260 +229 206040 045 040 000 00
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Re: ATL: NESTOR - Tropical Storm - Discussion
almost looks like a plains dryline severe event/mcs more than a tropical storm


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Re: ATL: NESTOR - Tropical Storm - Discussion
The models are not handling the structure of this well. They have the ball of convection being more closely aligned with the current center moving NE. Current NHC center is well displaced to the West and convection is moving rapidly to the ENE. No way this has time to consolidate. They are acting like two separate entities.
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Re: ATL: NESTOR - Tropical Storm - Discussion
BTW, models are still persistent that will strengthen some more tonight prior to making landfall, they all continue to shift east with a big shift east by the Euro, relatively speaking compared to yesterday's 12z run.
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Re: ATL: NESTOR - Tropical Storm - Discussion
45 knots over a fairly wide area along the coast wherever it makes landfall is going to keep the power companies busy so glad for the upgrade. Pretty intense south eastern quadrant with all the lightning strikes so there may be tornadoes as far south as the Tampa bay area.
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone
NDG wrote:Poor guy doesn't know that it is stronger than a tropical depression.
https://twitter.com/bamajohne/status/1185223408558063616
Myself, Aric and many others on this forum would be enjoying that cruise!
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