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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#921 Postby funster » Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:54 pm

Traveling Pants: New Gap jeans found 3 miles away from destroyed Preston and Royal Gap store.

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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#922 Postby Common sense » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:35 pm

Hey everyone. Hi from Tyler. I've been lurking on this board since the winter of 2007. I registered today. I don't have any weather knowledge other than the few things I've picked up here from some of you. Glad for this boards existence though.

Glad you're ok something funny. Something is really nagging at me though. I hope you can clarify. It's probably something simple I'm missing.

You posted those photos from last night's tornado at 5:15am this morning. In one of those photos you can clearly see sunlight. Possibly two others as well. How is that possible? The sun doesn't rise until 7:15ish.

I know it's not the time stamp that's wrong because I saw your post at 5:35am. I'm 100 miles east of you.

Like I said probably simple explanation.
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#923 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:43 pm

Common sense wrote:Hey everyone. Hi from Tyler. I've been lurking on this board since the winter of 2007. I registered today. I don't have any weather knowledge other than the few things I've picked up here from some of you. Glad for this boards existence though.

Glad you're ok something funny. Something is really nagging at me though. I hope you can clarify. It's probably something simple I'm missing.

You posted those photos from last night's tornado at 5:15am this morning. In one of those photos you can clearly see sunlight. Possibly two others as well. How is that possible? The sun doesn't rise until 7:15ish.

I know it's not the time stamp that's wrong because I saw your post at 5:35am. I'm 100 miles east of you.

Like I said probably simple explanation.



It very well could night mode on his phone. If you touch the screen on my phone, it will brighten the screen significantly. If he lives near the city, that can make it seem like the sun is coming up
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#924 Postby Common sense » Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:53 pm

Hey teamplayerblue!

Thanks for responding. Yea I get that on two of them that is possible. However, there is one that clearly shows sunlight ☺️...
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#925 Postby Common sense » Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:56 pm

The second picture posted with the side of the house, the tree, truck and Honda.
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#926 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:18 pm

Summer and temps over 85 are dead.

Go to hell Summer and fully welcome to Fall/Winter!
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#927 Postby rwfromkansas » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:01 pm

11 wasn’t impressed with rain chances. Basically a half inch.
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#928 Postby Brent » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:26 pm

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Public Information Statement
National Weather Service Fort Worth TX
619 PM CDT Mon Oct 21 2019


...NWS Damage Survey For 10/20/2019 North Texas Severe Weather Event...

Severe thunderstorms erupted on the evening of 10/20/2019 across North Texas
ahead of a powerful storm system. A couple of supercells produced tornadoes
across parts of the Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex. In summary,
the highest rated tornado...an EF-3...struck portions of Dallas County. The
other two tornadoes have been rated EF-1 and EF-0. A total of 3 tornadoes
and one damaging downburst have been surveyed. Additional surveys are possible
over the next several days.

.Las Colinas to Richardson Tornado...

Rating: EF-3
Estimated Peak Wind: 140 mph
Path Length /statute/: 15.75 miles
Path Width /maximum/: 1300 yards
Fatalities: 0
Injuries: UNKNOWN

Start Date: 10/20/2019
Start Time: 20:58 CDT
Start Location: 1.8 E of Las Colinas /Dallas County/
Start Lat/Lon: 32.87/-96.91

End Date: 10/20/2019
End Time: 21:30 CDT
End Location: 3 E of Richardson /Dallas County/
End Lat/Lon: 32.96/-96.68

The tornado formed in northwest Dallas, near State Highway 348 and
Luna Road, where large tree damage and minor roof damage was
initially observed. This tornado tracked toward the east-northeast,
crossing I-35E and impacted numerous commercial structures
between this freeway and Harry Hines Blvd. Extensive damage to
many businesses and residences, consistent with EF-1 and EF-2
intensity wind speeds, occurred near the intersection of Harry
Hines Blvd and Walnut Hill Lane. As the tornado moved eastward,
roughly coincident with Walnut Hill Lane, several gas stations,
large commercial buildings, and churches, and at least one multi-
story apartment complex sustained significant roof and exterior
wall damage. This path of strong EF-1 and EF-2 damage continued
east-northeast along Walnut Hill Lane through the Marsh Lane and
Midway Road corridors. East of Marsh Lane, the tornado
impacted more single-family residences, though commercial
structures were still adversely affected at times. Severe damage
to large hardwood trees, consistent with EF-1 intensity winds, was
observed throughout the damage path from Marsh Lane to US HWY 75.

Intermittent EF-1 and EF-2 damage also occurred to a number of
residences in this area. Many of these damaged homes were large
and/or well-established structures that sustained either partial
or total roof loss, accompanied by minor exterior wall damage.
This damage was consistent with 110-125 mph tornado winds. Within
one concentrated region of EF-2 damage along Northaven Road west
of US HWY 75, a particular single-family home was surveyed with total
roof loss, and multiple collapsed exterior walls. The survey team
determined that this damage was consistent with low-end EF-3
intensity winds of approximately 140 mph. This was the only
structure that was assigned an EF-3 rating for this tornado.

The tornado continued eastward, toward US HWY 75 and produced
significant roof damage to several businesses near US HWY 75
including office low-rise buildings, a car dealership, and a Home
Depot. Damage here was assigned an EF-2 intensity. The tornado
crossed over the southern part of the Texas Instruments campus
and then began to turn more northeastward and parallel
Greenville Avenue. Tree and roof damage consistent with EF-1
occurred as it crossed I-635. Several glass windows were blown
out at a mid-rise office building. The tornado crossed
an apartment complex near Walnut Street and Greenville Avenue where
dozens of units had sections of missing roof consistent with EF-1
damage of 95 to 110 mph. The tornado moved across the Cutters
Point apartment complex where numerous units experienced
significant roof loss consistent with 115 mph or EF-2 damage.
Another low-rise office building saw numerous windows blown out on
all sides. The tornado continued into the Richland Park, Lakes of
Buckingham, Richland Meadows, and College Park residential
subdivisions where widespread tree and roof damage consistent
with 80 to 95 mph winds occurred. A few homes in this area saw
complete or total roof loss where winds were estimated at 110 mph
or EF-1. The tornado began to weaken and took a sharp turn to the
north near Richardson Square where it tracked to the Huffhines
Park areas. Mostly tree damage occurred here with winds estimated
near 70 mph or EF-0. The track then turned to the west and became
very narrow near Duck Creek with the tornado dissipating as it
crossed Jupiter Rd. The tornado had a continuous track for 32
minutes, tracked for just over 15 miles, produced maximum winds of
140 mph, with a maximum width of three-quarters of a mile.

.Rowlett Tornado...

Rating: EF-1
Estimated Peak Wind: 100 mph
Path Length /statute/: 6.0 miles
Path Width /maximum/: 500 yards
Fatalities: 0
Injuries: UNKNOWN

Start Date: 10/20/2019
Start Time: 21:36 CDT
Start Location: Near Rowlett /Dallas County/
Start Lat/Lon: 32.92/-96.57

End Date: 10/20/2019
End Time: 21:45 CDT
End Location: Lake Ray Hubbard /Dallas County/
End Lat/Lon: 32.98/-96.50

The onset of damage with this path began along Larkin Lane in
Rowlett with a few trees and roofs damaged. The track continued
east northeast with the greatest intensity of damage observed in
the 4600 block of Hilcox Road just before President George
Bush Turnpike (PGBT) where one home lost most of the roof and saw severe
window damage and the garage exterior walls collapsed. Several metal
outbuildings and barns on this and adjacent properties were also
severely damaged or destroyed. Multiple trees were snapped or
uprooted along with power poles collapsed.

The tornado moved over the east side of the PGBT where several
houses and barns sustained significant roof damage or shingles
removed. The damage track continued north/northeast near the
Pleasant Valley neighborhood. A video shows this tornado as it was
over Lake Ray Hubbard where it likely lifted before reaching the
far shore.


.Wills Point Tornado...

Rating: EF-0
Estimated Peak Wind: 78 mph
Path Length /statute/: 0.63 miles
Path Width /maximum/: 200 yards
Fatalities: 0
Injuries: UNKNOWN

Start Date: 10/20/2019
Start Time: 2259 CDT
Start Location: 1.9 N of Wills Point /Van Zandt County/
Start Lat/Lon: 32.73/-96.00

End Date: 10/20/2019
End Time: 2304 cdt
End Location: 2 NE of Wills Point /Van Zandt County/
End Lat/Lon: 32.73/-95.99

A brief tornado touched down in Van Zandt County around 2300 CDT
10/20/19. The tornado formed 1/4 mile east of Van Zandt County
Road 3801, tracking east through a neighborhood of manufactured
homes along Van Zandt County Road 3849. The tornado was
approximately 200 yards wide and was on the ground for a little
more than 1/2 mile in its 5 minute lifespan. The tornado
dissipated just east of Lake Dr. (Highway 47). Multiple roofs
sustained damaged, mainly on the south side of Van Zandt County
Road 3849. Multiple sheds and carports were overturned and
damaged. A few small trees were uprooted and tree branches were
broken on numerous trees, all consistent with EF-0 damage between
70 and 78 mph.

.Rockwall Downburst Wind Event...

Peak Wind /Estimated/: 90 mph
Path Length /statute/: 1.5 miles
Path Width /maximum/: < 100 yards
Fatalities: 0
Injuries: UNKNOWN

Start Date: 10/20/2019
Start Time: 2200 CDT
Start Location: West City of Rockwall /Rockwall County/
Start Lat/Lon: 32.93/-96.48

End Date: 10/20/2019
End Time: 2210 CDT
End Location: East City of Rockwall /Rockwall County/
End Lat/Lon: 32.94/-96.45

An area of thunderstorm wind damage was observed in the City of
Rockwall, generally parallel with and north of US HWY 66. From
the eastern shore of Lake Ray Hubbard into northeastern Rockwall.
The most intense damage was observed close to the lake along
Sunset Hill Drive where several homes sustained significant roof
damage. As the path continued farther east across State Highway 205,
damage consisted of downed trees and fences, as well as missing
shingles on roofs.

EF Scale: The Enhanced Fujita Scale classifies tornadoes into the
following categories:

EF0...Weak......65 to 85 mph
EF1...Weak......86 to 110 mph
EF2...Strong....111 to 135 mph
EF3...Strong....136 to 165 mph
EF4...Violent...166 to 200 mph
EF5...Violent...>200 mph

NOTE:
The information in this statement is preliminary and subject to
change pending final review of the events and publication in NWS
Storm Data.

$$

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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#929 Postby EnnisTx » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:12 pm

Common sense wrote:The second picture posted with the side of the house, the tree, truck and Honda.


Being around this many times in my life. The light you've been insisting is sun light is from City lights in the distance and the light on the cars and house are artificial from the area being lit up by emergency vehicle lights. Also not thinking it's appropriate to question him about what you perceive to be possibly fake.
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#930 Postby somethingfunny » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:18 am

Common sense wrote:Hey teamplayerblue!

Thanks for responding. Yea I get that on two of them that is possible. However, there is one that clearly shows sunlight ☺️...


@commonsense Welcome to the group! I think this is the best forum for Texas weather chatter on the Internet... I'm sure you already know that from years of lurking. Glad you joined up!

To clarify.... The "sunshine" you're seeing in that photo is coming from emergency vehicles and headlights that were behind me. You should have seen the traffic jam in our neighborhood that night ...disaster zones are frantic and hectic places.

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2 ... ra-samples

My Google Pixel 3 has a camera feature called nightsight and it is freaking amazing. I actually didn't know how to use it until I started experimenting with the camera last night. I wish I'd used it when I was photographing the actual tornado from a distance near Northpark Mall before I found out my house had been hit. :roll:

It also would have been nice if the fancy professional "photojournalists" working for The Weather Channel had thought to use a cutting edge cell phone camera instead of rolling up and down my neighborhood with monstrous lightbars beaming into every house from the front, back, AND SIDES of their trucks. I got into a very heated argument with them about letting people who've just survived a tornado get some desperately needed sleep. There's no need to shine that crap into people's homes when you can just use a different type of camera...or wait for daybreak to get your damn photos. :grr:
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#931 Postby somethingfunny » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:27 am

I'm kinda salty about this

Brent wrote:https://i.ibb.co/LhJPvDy/image5.jpg
Public Information Statement
National Weather Service Fort Worth TX
619 PM CDT Mon Oct 21 2019


...NWS Damage Survey For 10/20/2019 North Texas Severe Weather Event...

(Clip)

Tree and roof damage consistent with EF-1
occurred as it crossed I-635. Several glass windows were blown
out at a mid-rise office building. The tornado crossed
an apartment complex near Walnut Street and Greenville Avenue where dozens of units had sections of missing roof consistent with EF-1 damage of 95 to 110 mph. The tornado moved across the Cutters Point apartment complex where numerous units experienced significant roof loss consistent with 115 mph or EF-2 damage. Another low-rise office building saw numerous windows blown out on all sides. The tornado continued into the Richland Park, Lakes of Buckingham, Richland Meadows, and College Park residential subdivisions where widespread tree and roof damage consistent with 80 to 95 mph winds occurred. A few homes in this area saw complete or total roof loss where winds were estimated at 110 mph or EF-1.

(Clip)



So... The Cutters Point apartments behind my neighborhood lost parts of their roofs and earned a 115mph EF2 rating, but my next door neighbors lose parts of their roofs and just earn a 110mph EF1 rating. Dunno what the difference is, but ok then :lol:
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#932 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:36 am

Made it down to 38 this morning
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#933 Postby Ralph's Weather » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:31 am

Yukon Cornelius wrote:Made it down to 38 this morning

41 at my house
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#934 Postby weatherdude1108 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:53 pm

Now that's more like it. :wink:


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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#935 Postby Common sense » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:12 pm

Thanks for the response somethingfunny and the explanation. I can totally see the artificial light now that you've explained it. Much appreciated! Makes sense now.

Just to clarify, I never said it was fake or insinuated that. I was only looking for a logical explanation. It was Ennis,tx that kind of freaked out on me for asking. I think you mentioned you take Xanax several pages back Ennis,tx...maybe you missed a dose.

Thanks again somethingfunny. Glad you're ok. Sorry about all that destruction. Hope insurance makes it all better ☺️
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#936 Postby aggiecutter » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:40 pm

Ignorance is Bliss and then there is this. EF-3 Tornado on the ground in Dallas, but how bout dem Cowboys. Everyone at NBC-5 in Dallas should be fired and banned from working in Public Broadcasting for life:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYgttpc3m94&t=16s
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#937 Postby Cpv17 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:38 pm

I’m loving this!!

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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#938 Postby Brent » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:40 pm

aggiecutter wrote:Ignorance is Bliss and then there is this. EF-3 Tornado on the ground in Dallas, but how bout dem Cowboys. Everyone at NBC-5 in Dallas should be fired and banned from working in Public Broadcasting for life:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYgttpc3m94&t=16s


NBC deserves it but CBS 11 was almost as bad honestly. What even were they trying to show at the start? Some chase where you couldnt see much, no radar?
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#939 Postby Brent » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:10 pm

btw the end of the Euro would probably be a frosty Halloween morning away from the metro... even has upper 30s for DFW. The ensembles are trending colder too. The GEFS has mid 30s for lows
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#940 Postby Cpv17 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:25 pm

Brent wrote:btw the end of the Euro would probably be a frosty Halloween morning away from the metro... even has upper 30s for DFW. The ensembles are trending colder too. The GEFS has mid 30s for lows


Not sure what the ensembles show (haven’t looked) but I see the op runs have the brunt of the cold moving more towards the Ohio Valley rather than straight down the plains.
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