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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#941 Postby EnnisTx » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:54 pm

Common sense wrote:Thanks for the response somethingfunny and the explanation. I can totally see the artificial light now that you've explained it. Much appreciated! Makes sense now.

Just to clarify, I never said it was fake or insinuated that. I was only looking for a logical explanation. It was Ennis,tx that kind of freaked out on me for asking. I think you mentioned you take Xanax several pages back Ennis,tx...maybe you missed a dose.

Thanks again somethingfunny. Glad you're ok. Sorry about all that destruction. Hope insurance makes it all better ☺️


Hey teamplayerblue!

Thanks for responding. Yea I get that on two of them that is possible. However, there is one that clearly shows sunlight ☺️...

Your words above. I never freaked out on you. I just stated that it was inappropriate to question his photos, Especially at the time and It was just very obvious to me anyway that it was artificial light that's all.

Welcome to the forum. PS, I had already taken a xanax. :moon:
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#942 Postby BrokenGlass » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:26 pm

About Sunday night, how sure are we that all of the possible tornados are found? I think the Belt Line corridor between Coit and 75 should be looked at further. Incredible number of large trees completely uprooted.


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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#943 Postby bubba hotep » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:48 pm

One trend that I am liking is that we are seeing systems really dig into the SW with some cutting off. Maybe with the Pacific warmness set a bit more westward this year it will help force a background pattern more conducive to systems digging deep into the SW? That isn't necessarily great for deep cold but it is a much better look for snow.
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#945 Postby weatherdude1108 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:22 pm



My coworker is a big deer hunter. He talks about how good the cold weather is for seeing them from behind the blinds.
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#946 Postby Brent » Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:06 am

Models are trending wetter for Thursday/Friday and colder for Halloween, the Euro has a freeze for DFW on November 1st and highs in the 40s for Halloween :cold: so does the CMC(except it has a cold rain with snow out in West Texas)

we're getting closer to winter guys :cold:
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#947 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:26 am

Brent wrote:Models are trending wetter for Thursday/Friday and colder for Halloween, the Euro has a freeze for DFW on November 1st and highs in the 40s for Halloween :cold: so does the CMC(except it has a cold rain with snow out in West Texas)

we're getting closer to winter guys :cold:


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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#948 Postby Ralph's Weather » Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:42 am

Looks like some good snow for NE NM and even the TX Panhandle tomorrow.
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#949 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:11 am

A preview of our winter pattern? About as beautiful of a 15 day mean as you will ever see.

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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#950 Postby Cpv17 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:22 am

bubba hotep wrote:A preview of our winter pattern? About as beautiful of a 15 day mean as you will ever see.

https://i.ibb.co/Mpyzfsw/IMG-20191023-080709.png


I doubt it. Last year we had some cold shots in October and November and then didn’t have another one till like the first week of March. D-F was a dud.
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#951 Postby hriverajr » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:24 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:A preview of our winter pattern? About as beautiful of a 15 day mean as you will ever see.

https://i.ibb.co/Mpyzfsw/IMG-20191023-080709.png


I doubt it. Last year we had some cold shots in October and November and then didn’t have another one till like the first week of March. D-F was a dud.


If I recall correctly weren't the troughs farther east in general? This year feels different. Perhaps I am wrong.
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#952 Postby Ntxw » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:34 pm

bubba hotep wrote:A preview of our winter pattern? About as beautiful of a 15 day mean as you will ever see.

https://i.ibb.co/Mpyzfsw/IMG-20191023-080709.png


2019ing. Posted a few pages back the NPO is favored this year. In the summertime it doesn't do much for us but different story during cold season.

Still on the table this could be coldest halloween period in recent memory, closer to the early 1990s.
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#953 Postby CaptinCrunch » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:40 pm

hriverajr wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:A preview of our winter pattern? About as beautiful of a 15 day mean as you will ever see.

https://i.ibb.co/Mpyzfsw/IMG-20191023-080709.png


I doubt it. Last year we had some cold shots in October and November and then didn’t have another one till like the first week of March. D-F was a dud.


If I recall correctly weren't the troughs farther east in general? This year feels different. Perhaps I am wrong.


Last winter the pattern went flat in December and the western ridge never happened, that lead to a more zonal pattern or eastern trough. Hopefully the blind squrrel finds his nut this winter! :ggreen: :lol:
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#954 Postby CaptinCrunch » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:53 pm

Ntxw wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:A preview of our winter pattern? About as beautiful of a 15 day mean as you will ever see.

https://i.ibb.co/Mpyzfsw/IMG-20191023-080709.png


2019ing. Posted a few pages back the NPO is favored this year. In the summertime it doesn't do much for us but different story during cold season.

Still on the table this could be coldest halloween period in recent memory, closer to the early 1990s.


We haven't had a unseasonably cold Halloween since 2002 (avg 49), and the next coldest after that was 2017 (avg 54)
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#955 Postby Brent » Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:27 pm

Euro really dropping the hammer for Halloween, Dallas stays below 50 for almost 3 days(starting on Wednesday) and gets to freezing on Halloween morning even at DFW airport

the average first freeze is usually well into November
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#956 Postby CaptinCrunch » Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:38 pm

Brent wrote:Euro really dropping the hammer for Halloween, Dallas stays below 50 for almost 3 days(starting on Wednesday) and gets to freezing on Halloween morning even at DFW airport

the average first freeze is usually well into November


wouldn't that be awesome!
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#957 Postby funster » Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:48 pm

Tornado-related pressure drop recorded at Love Field:

 https://twitter.com/NWSFortWorth/status/1187056892398333952


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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#958 Postby Brent » Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:52 pm

CaptinCrunch wrote:
Brent wrote:Euro really dropping the hammer for Halloween, Dallas stays below 50 for almost 3 days(starting on Wednesday) and gets to freezing on Halloween morning even at DFW airport

the average first freeze is usually well into November


wouldn't that be awesome!


if that verifies before November it would actually be in the top 10 earliest freezes and the only somewhat recent years here are 1993 and 1991


Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Fort Worth TX
234 PM CDT Wed Oct 23 2019


.SHORT TERM...
/Tonight through Friday afternoon/

Low level warm air advection will increase tonight ahead of a low
pressure system and associated cold front, resulting in a warmer
and breezy night with lows from the middle 50s to the lower 60s.
The cold front will move into the northwest zones late tonight,
bringing a broken line of showers and thunderstorms. These storms
will become more organized after sunrise Thursday as the upper
trough deepens over Southern Colorado/Northern New Mexico and the
cold front moves south into more abundant moisture. The primary
hazard associated with these storms will be from locally heavy
rainfall and lighting. However, there may be enough instability
and shear across the region to support a few robust updrafts that
may produce some marginally severe hail, primarily across Central
Texas Thursday afternoon and evening. Although some locally heavy
rainfall will be possible, widespread flooding is not anticipated
since the front will be progressive and deep moisture will be
absent. Average rainfall amounts through Thursday evening will be
between 1 and 2 inches, but some amounts in excess of 2 inches
will be possible, especially across the northeast zones.


Models are coming more in line regarding the movement of the
upper low with a general track across the Texas Panhandle and
Southern Oklahoma Thursday night through Friday. This will push
most of the rain/storms to East and Northeast Texas, but it will
remain cool and breezy with highs Friday struggling to get out of
the 50s.
There may be some lingering light rain across the Central
and Western counties Friday morning, but rain and clouds should
gradually clear from west to east through the day with increasing
subsidence behind the departing system.

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&&
.LONG TERM...
/Friday Night Through Mid Next Week/

A deep and narrow upper level trough with an associated upper
level low is expected to be centered over North Texas Friday
evening. A vigorous shortwave trough and associated tropopause
fold should be wrapping around the south side of the upper low,
allowing the system to rapidly fill and eject northeast overnight
Friday into Saturday morning. Some lingering light rain and low
level cloudiness associated with wrap around moisture in the
vicinity of the surface low (centered over the lower Mississippi
Valley) should be ongoing through the night across the areas east
of I-35 and north of I-20, with all precip coming to and end by
daybreak Saturday. A robust dry conveyor belt and surface high
should be moving into the area Saturday allowing dry air entrainment
and surface heating to erode any lingering low level cloudiness
by the early afternoon. This will set the scene for great weather
Saturday and Sunday with crisp mornings both days with lows in the
40s and highs in the 60s and 70s, respectively.

Continuing into next week both the deterministic and ensemble
guidance members are struggling to get a handle on the large-scale
pattern, which will greatly affect the local sensible weather.
What we are confident of ATTM is a deep low developing near the
Aleutian Islands which in-turn should develop a blocking ridge
across the North Pacific. This ridge will induce the deepening of
a trough across the Intermountain West late this weekend/early
next week. What we are uncertain of ATTM is how the trough will
evolve over the CONUS. It will either deepen into SoCal and move
through North/Central Texas mid to late next week or progressively
move through the North/Central Texas in the early parts of next
week. The current forecast package is using a blended approach,
leaning heavily on the national blended guidance to avoid falling
into the trap of biting on a favored solution too soon.

With that being said, confidence is high of the trough moving
through at some point next week, and once the trough does move
into the Central CONUS, it will be accompanied by a strong bout of
high pressure and CP air moving into our area. An earlier trough
passage would likely mean a dry front since return flow ahead of
the system will be limited. A later in the week passage would
favor a wetter system with stronger jet dynamics and baroclinicity,
thus a higher potential for severe weather associated with the
attendant cold front. Bottom line...A strong cold front is expected
to move through the area at some point next week, but we will
need to keep an eye on what happens out west over the next few
days to gain confidence on the timing and evolution of the system.
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#959 Postby starsfan65 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:14 pm

How much rain is DFW suppose to get?
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Re: Texas Fall 2019

#960 Postby Brent » Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:43 pm

starsfan65 wrote:How much rain is DFW suppose to get?


probably 1-2" average. Some spots maybe over 2 inches

The NAM has a really slow moving line tomorrow evening and overnight that could up totals if/where it happens
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