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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1921 Postby gpsnowman » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:26 am

bubba hotep wrote:12z GFS - western portion looks like legit snow but as you move closer to DFW that is more sleet/freezing rain. Given the model bias to be too slow with low level cold, winter wx might actually extend farther SE than what is depicted here.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2020013112/gfs_asnow_scus_25.png

Yes, some over-performing cold by a few degrees might play a huge role in all this. Not uncommon for that to happen with these strong fronts. Color me excited about this potential.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1922 Postby bubba hotep » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:33 am

Ntxw wrote::uarrow: At the 500mb, much of North Texas goes below 540dm. That's the coldest aloft system of the season and the strongest in years if verified.

This system has some serious potential, not just for snow but significant blizzard, major storm perhaps for somebody?


The H5 look on the GFS has been improving over the last several runs and my interest has been increasing as well :)
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1923 Postby Ntxw » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:42 am

bubba hotep wrote:
Ntxw wrote::uarrow: At the 500mb, much of North Texas goes below 540dm. That's the coldest aloft system of the season and the strongest in years if verified.

This system has some serious potential, not just for snow but significant blizzard, major storm perhaps for somebody?


The H5 look on the GFS has been improving over the last several runs and my interest has been increasing as well :)


Even the Canadian has been improving and all 3 major globals depict a very strong upper level system. All are ~540. Crazy that the Euro went there as well.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1924 Postby Quixotic » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:42 am

bubba hotep wrote:
Ntxw wrote::uarrow: At the 500mb, much of North Texas goes below 540dm. That's the coldest aloft system of the season and the strongest in years if verified.

This system has some serious potential, not just for snow but significant blizzard, major storm perhaps for somebody?


The H5 look on the GFS has been improving over the last several runs and my interest has been increasing as well :)


We finally have something to watch.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1925 Postby Texas Snow » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:49 am

Quixotic wrote:We finally have something to watch.


After practically everyone had given up.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1926 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:53 am

Texas Snow wrote:
Quixotic wrote:We finally have something to watch.


After practically everyone had given up.


Always happens. Always.

Lots of emotional weather followers.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1927 Postby stormlover2013 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:58 am

still about 5 days away also, it could either change for the good for the state of texas or bust lol lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1928 Postby Ntxw » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:59 am

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
Texas Snow wrote:
Quixotic wrote:We finally have something to watch.


After practically everyone had given up.


Always happens. Always.

Lots of emotional weather followers.


Only the emotions of posters :lol:. The atmosphere has no memory. Because it didn't snow last storm means zilch for the next storm, vice versa. It has been one of the warmest Dec/Jan combinations ever for DFW yet if it snows again the coming week, it will have happened with two measurable events at the airport despite being one of the warmest ever. We've had some really cold periods that have equaled zilch.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1929 Postby Jarodm12 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:02 pm

Guys and Gals, i feel it! This is it! This is our recompense! I just feel this storm is gonna show up and we are gonna be pleased all global models are zeroing in and we are in the strike zone within 5 days! Everyone i think we've gor ourselves our first major storm in a long long time, all we can do is watch now and hope that the high res models agree hugs my feelers are going crazy crazy!
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1930 Postby dhweather » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:02 pm

Ntxw wrote::uarrow: At the 500mb, much of North Texas goes below 540dm. That's the coldest aloft system of the season and the strongest in years if verified.

This system has some serious potential, not just for snow but significant blizzard, major storm perhaps for somebody?



Crazy, isn't it? Basically the entire state north of Corpus is <540, northwest parts of the FWD CWA <528 :eek:
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1931 Postby Quixotic » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:08 pm

Texas Snow wrote:
Quixotic wrote:We finally have something to watch.


After practically everyone had given up.


Let the model vigilance commence!
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1932 Postby Haris » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:10 pm

Do you think we will be cold enough in Austin? I hate the latest models for us :grr:
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1933 Postby Ntxw » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:11 pm

dhweather wrote:
Ntxw wrote::uarrow: At the 500mb, much of North Texas goes below 540dm. That's the coldest aloft system of the season and the strongest in years if verified.

This system has some serious potential, not just for snow but significant blizzard, major storm perhaps for somebody?



Crazy, isn't it? Basically the entire state north of Corpus is <540, northwest parts of the FWD CWA <528 :eek:


The deepest aloft I can recall was Christmas Eve 09 when it got down to about ~540 but not in such a large area only in the core of the ULL/trough apex. I don't think we've had any that deep since. Most of the arctic blasts we've had were not terribly cold aloft (shallow cold air).
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1934 Postby dhweather » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:11 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1935 Postby Ntxw » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:13 pm

Haris wrote:Do you think we will be cold enough in Austin? I hate the latest models for us :grr:


There is a fresh source of cold air coming in early week. I'd watch that for trends colder at the surface.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1936 Postby Jarodm12 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:17 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Haris wrote:Do you think we will be cold enough in Austin? I hate the latest models for us :grr:


There is a fresh source of cold air coming in early week. I'd watch that for trends colder at the surface.


Bases on right now, and yes i am kind of asking you to make an off the cuff prediction for me if you're willing to do that, but based on right now with everything you're seeing what do you think about Durant Oklahoma
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1937 Postby Ralph's Weather » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:47 pm

This looks like a situation where the models are actually underdoing the winter precip potential of this storm.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1938 Postby Cerlin » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:54 pm

I was a few days away from issuing my official winter cancel too...now my life has purpose again!
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1939 Postby harp » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:58 pm

Happy for you guys!! I will be living vicariously through you over here in Louisiana. Doesn't look like we have a chance.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1940 Postby starsfan65 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:10 pm

Ralph's Weather wrote:This looks like a situation where the models are actually underdoing the winter precip potential of this storm.
underdoing the winter precip?
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