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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2201 Postby Cerlin » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:41 pm

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Cerlin wrote:Interesting to see if GFS shifts west like it has been the last couple runs or does a more SE shift like the rest of the models are hinting at. Also interesting to see if it will continue to show fantasy amounts of snow or tone it back.


I'm going to guess it will trend slightly colder and more qpf. Earlier in the week (before Thurs or Weds) this system was shown to come through with some specs of qpf, less than half an inch or 0.25" or fewer even. In the days since we have gone full fledged convective inch to multi inch liquid equivalent major storm. Think about that! A few nights ago the discussion was how the trough was coming through dry, despite looking so strong at 500mb...now look at it.

That’s what I love about weather. Every day brings new changes and things can change so quickly that there’s always something to look at. Always gets me excited!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2202 Postby gpsnowman » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:45 pm

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Ntxw wrote:Icon has strong convective snow/rain to the w/nw (this model doesn't show the mixing stuff in-between, at least not on tidbits) while DFW is at or close to freezing and raining hard. Transitions to snow on the backside as the upper trough crosses.


This one is beginning to trend SE as well...good trends to start off the 0Z suites this evening, next up GFS!!!

Thought about hitting the sack after the game with a belly full of food and beer but my goodness some serious trends just since the second half kickoff!! Think I will stay up and wait for the next round of models. Initially my main concern was cold air like it normally is. Now it seems the ingredients are slowly mixing together for the perfect recipe. At least for now.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2203 Postby Brent » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:46 pm

Just saw this comment on Facebook from Dan Brounoff on KRLD :froze: this would be fun :ggreen:

A couple of inches will coat the top of the sleet, Wednesday night into Thursday morning
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2204 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:49 pm

0z GFS is looking quite consistent with the 18z through hour 60, and doesn’t look much like the NAM changes. Wondering if the new data hasn’t in yet. Precip sheild looks more intense out west though
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2205 Postby Brent » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:51 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:0z GFS is looking quite consistent with the 18z through hour 60, and doesn’t look much like the NAM changes. Wondering if the new data hasn’t in yet. Precip sheild looks more intense out west though


A foot of snow out by Abilene again :double:

Correction 15 inches :double:

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2206 Postby Ntxw » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:51 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:0z GFS is looking quite consistent with the 18z through hour 60, and doesn’t look much like the NAM changes. Wondering if the new data hasn’t in yet. Precip sheild looks more intense out west though


It won't take much to get that further east. That convection though, thundersnow, thundersleet all definitely at play.

If we think DFW is at crosshairs unfair, look at Lubbock to Childress and Southwest Oklahoma. Lots of snow for a few runs, some on the Euro but then GFS shafts them with zip. Wouldn't want to be at their WFOs either.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2207 Postby Haris » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:54 pm

Ntxw wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:0z GFS is looking quite consistent with the 18z through hour 60, and doesn’t look much like the NAM changes. Wondering if the new data hasn’t in yet. Precip sheild looks more intense out west though


It won't take much to get that further east. That convection though, thundersnow, thundersleet all definitely at play.

Ntxwx, do you think there will be another good round of precip Wed night. That is what I am banking on down here
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2208 Postby Ntxw » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:55 pm

Haris wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:0z GFS is looking quite consistent with the 18z through hour 60, and doesn’t look much like the NAM changes. Wondering if the new data hasn’t in yet. Precip sheild looks more intense out west though


It won't take much to get that further east. That convection though, thundersnow, thundersleet all definitely at play.

Ntxwx, do you think there will be another good round of precip Wed night. That is what I am banking on down here


That's what you're watching for. ULL disturbance coming through and generating enough lift for precip in the cold air that models may not catch yet.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2209 Postby Cerlin » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:56 pm

So it went for the fantasy totals again. Interesting GFS.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2210 Postby Jarodm12 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:56 pm

Ntxw wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:0z GFS is looking quite consistent with the 18z through hour 60, and doesn’t look much like the NAM changes. Wondering if the new data hasn’t in yet. Precip sheild looks more intense out west though


It won't take much to get that further east. That convection though, thundersnow, thundersleet all definitely at play.

If we think DFW is at crosshairs unfair, look at Lubbock to Childress and Southwest Oklahoma. Lots of snow for a few runs, some on the Euro but then GFS shafts them with zip. Wouldn't want to be at their WFOs either.



So I wil defer to your expertise, are we no longer worried about the tempatures? or is there still cause for concern?
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2211 Postby Ntxw » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:58 pm

Jarodm12 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:0z GFS is looking quite consistent with the 18z through hour 60, and doesn’t look much like the NAM changes. Wondering if the new data hasn’t in yet. Precip sheild looks more intense out west though


It won't take much to get that further east. That convection though, thundersnow, thundersleet all definitely at play.

If we think DFW is at crosshairs unfair, look at Lubbock to Childress and Southwest Oklahoma. Lots of snow for a few runs, some on the Euro but then GFS shafts them with zip. Wouldn't want to be at their WFOs either.



So I wil defer to your expertise, are we no longer worried about the tempatures? or is there still cause for concern?


Temperatures matter, for type of precip too. I would yield to the high res guidance for that though within 48 hours. Only look for trends from the globals.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2212 Postby gpsnowman » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:59 pm

Haris wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:0z GFS is looking quite consistent with the 18z through hour 60, and doesn’t look much like the NAM changes. Wondering if the new data hasn’t in yet. Precip sheild looks more intense out west though


It won't take much to get that further east. That convection though, thundersnow, thundersleet all definitely at play.

Ntxwx, do you think there will be another good round of precip Wed night. That is what I am banking on down here

Kinda what I was thinking. If the cold air is there with the precip shield wider then the snow path depicted on the map Brent posted is too narrow. Maybe more widespread all around.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2213 Postby Texas Snow » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:06 pm

Jarodm12 wrote:

So I wil defer to your expertise, are we no longer worried about the tempatures? or is there still cause for concern?


Nothing is set for sure, but surface temps have looked better today. Temps throughout the entire column are even less certain which is why the NWS is showing all precip types for now. tomorrow is when things should really start to take shape, but of course in Texas I‘m never gonna count them chickens until we are now-casting
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2214 Postby Brent » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:08 pm

gpsnowman wrote:
Haris wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
It won't take much to get that further east. That convection though, thundersnow, thundersleet all definitely at play.

Ntxwx, do you think there will be another good round of precip Wed night. That is what I am banking on down here

Kinda what I was thinking. If the cold air is there with the precip shield wider then the snow path depicted on the map Brent posted is too narrow. Maybe more widespread all around.


if it was wider I would assume the GFS totals probably would be cut in half maybe out where it shows a foot+
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2215 Postby TropicalTundra » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:09 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2216 Postby harp » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:28 pm

Hey, where is 57?
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2217 Postby Brent » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:30 pm

harp wrote:Hey, where is 57?


Reinforcing his wall :spam:
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2218 Postby Texas Snow » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:43 pm

harp wrote:Hey, where is 57?



Undoubtedly out on his bike this fine Sunday while the weather is still favorable for such endeavors.

I am actually really interested to hear what he has to say about this event with the benefit of tomorrow’s updated guidance, as well as that of his cold mongering co-workers...
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2219 Postby nathanc1969 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:55 pm

Well here I sit in San Angelo waiting on the storm. My how things can change from winter cancel to snow fun in such a short time. I am laughing at the 15" total in my area as that would be the winter storm of the century. Still hoping for enough to cover the grass for just a taste of winter.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2220 Postby harp » Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:23 am

Ya'll enjoy this because after this, it's back to Mr. Zonal Flow.
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