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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#201 Postby Abdullah » Sun May 17, 2020 4:49 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:12z SHIPS FWIW suggests this may be peaking sooner than I thought yesterday.

IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 0, 120N, 864E, 75, 0, HU, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 12, 131N, 865E, 85, 0, HU, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 24, 143N, 866E, 84, 0, HU, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 36, 158N, 870E, 84, 0, HU, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 48, 176N, 875E, 74, 0, HU, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 60, 199N, 882E, 58, 0, TS, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 72, 221N, 889E, 48, 0, TS, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 84, 236N, 892E, 28, 0, TD, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,


The initialization for 12Z SHIPS was made when the best track was giving us a medium category 1 hurricane. I want to see what their next model run looks like (with the updated best track).
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#202 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun May 17, 2020 4:58 pm

I'd go with 125 kt right now (pressure 941 mb). It's clear this is explosively intensifying, but there is definitely a lag. This could very well end up the strongest storm ever in the Indian Ocean basin. If only we had Recon...
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#203 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun May 17, 2020 5:04 pm

Abdullah wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:12z SHIPS FWIW suggests this may be peaking sooner than I thought yesterday.

IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 0, 120N, 864E, 75, 0, HU, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 12, 131N, 865E, 85, 0, HU, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 24, 143N, 866E, 84, 0, HU, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 36, 158N, 870E, 84, 0, HU, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 48, 176N, 875E, 74, 0, HU, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 60, 199N, 882E, 58, 0, TS, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 72, 221N, 889E, 48, 0, TS, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 84, 236N, 892E, 28, 0, TD, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,


The initialization for 12Z SHIPS was made when the best track was giving us a medium category 1 hurricane. I want to see what their next model run looks like (with the updated best track).


I mean you shouldn't taken it literally but it's a sign that environmental conditions could become less favorable after today.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#204 Postby mrbagyo » Sun May 17, 2020 5:07 pm

Looks like there is still some lingering easterly shear.


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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#205 Postby Abdullah » Sun May 17, 2020 5:11 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:
Abdullah wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:12z SHIPS FWIW suggests this may be peaking sooner than I thought yesterday.

IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 0, 120N, 864E, 75, 0, HU, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 12, 131N, 865E, 85, 0, HU, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 24, 143N, 866E, 84, 0, HU, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 36, 158N, 870E, 84, 0, HU, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 48, 176N, 875E, 74, 0, HU, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 60, 199N, 882E, 58, 0, TS, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 72, 221N, 889E, 48, 0, TS, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
IO, 01, 2020051712, 03, SHIP, 84, 236N, 892E, 28, 0, TD, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,


The initialization for 12Z SHIPS was made when the best track was giving us a medium category 1 hurricane. I want to see what their next model run looks like (with the updated best track).


I mean you shouldn't taken it literally but it's a sign that environmental conditions could become less favorable after today.


Agreed, but doesn't the strength of a storm affect how it interacts with its environment? Possibly causing it to move in a different way or be affected by different factors than it would if it were smaller or weaker?
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#206 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun May 17, 2020 5:17 pm

Here's the ATMS layers from the last NPP pass. Stout structure for sure, but the eastern side is definitely a little weaker on 88 GHz.

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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#207 Postby aspen » Sun May 17, 2020 5:18 pm

mrbagyo wrote:Looks like there is still some lingering easterly shear.


https://s6.gifyu.com/images/23504977.gif

Probably due to that anticyclone to the east. I don’t know if shear is ever going to be perfectly favorable for continued RI...to be honest, I’m starting to get Harold vibes from this: insanely impressive cold dark grey CDOs, but the eyes don’t fully clear due to a bit of outflow-restricting shear.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#208 Postby Hayabusa » Sun May 17, 2020 5:24 pm

Init same as BT

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#209 Postby aspen » Sun May 17, 2020 5:24 pm

Us: how much CDG are you going for?

Amphan: yes

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#210 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun May 17, 2020 5:43 pm

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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#211 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun May 17, 2020 5:43 pm



If not for the shear, we'd probably be seeing an epic monster. If that shear lets up, who knows how strong it could get.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#212 Postby aspen » Sun May 17, 2020 5:45 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:


If not for the shear, we'd probably be seeing an epic monster. If that shear lets up, who knows how strong it could get.

Positive eye temps would get this to at least T#7.5, without a doubt. Who knows if it’ll even get the chance to fully clear out its eye.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#213 Postby Abdullah » Sun May 17, 2020 5:52 pm

What pressure do you guys reckon we'll have around 0Z?
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#214 Postby Highteeld » Sun May 17, 2020 5:59 pm

Abdullah wrote:What pressure do you guys reckon we'll have around 0Z?

933 mb
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#215 Postby Highteeld » Sun May 17, 2020 6:02 pm

Eye temp slightly up. could be cyclical

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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#216 Postby aspen » Sun May 17, 2020 6:12 pm

MG eye, raw T up to 6.8
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#217 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun May 17, 2020 6:18 pm

Abdullah wrote:What pressure do you guys reckon we'll have around 0Z?


If we had Recon, I'd guess it would be around 936-940 mb right now.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#218 Postby Chris90 » Sun May 17, 2020 6:26 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:I'd go with 125 kt right now (pressure 941 mb). It's clear this is explosively intensifying, but there is definitely a lag. This could very well end up the strongest storm ever in the Indian Ocean basin. If only we had Recon...


No joke, a couple hours ago when I checked in on this storm, I guesstimated 941mb/125kts, so I'm absolutely thrilled to come here and read your post estimating the exact same thing, because I've always enjoyed your analysis.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#219 Postby aspen » Sun May 17, 2020 6:30 pm

Abdullah wrote:What pressure do you guys reckon we'll have around 0Z?

Probably 930-935 mbar. Winds might be bumped up to 120-125 kt for 00z.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#220 Postby aspen » Sun May 17, 2020 6:42 pm

This is insane:
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