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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#221 Postby Nancy Smar » Sun May 17, 2020 7:26 pm

TPIO10 PGTW 180015
A. TROPICAL CYCLONE 01B (AMPHAN)
B. 17/2345Z
C. 13.18N
D. 86.33E
E. ONE/GOES-IO
F. T7.0/7.0/D4.5/24HRS STT: D0.5/03HRS
G. IR/EIR
H. REMARKS: 05A/PBO . CMG SURR EYE OF DG +0.5 EYE ADJ YIELDS DT OF
7.0, PT 6.5. MET 5.5. DBO DT.
I. ADDITIONAL POSITIONS: NONE
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#222 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun May 17, 2020 7:31 pm

I mean 2345z only has MG from METOSAT8 so not sure what JTWC is looking at with regards to a DG eye since using GEOS-IO. Not impossible that's showing a DG eye and warmer cloud tops though. Of course, I'd also argue the CDG rule should be invoked.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#223 Postby Nancy Smar » Sun May 17, 2020 7:33 pm

01B AMPHAN 200518 0000 13.2N 86.5E IO 130 919
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#224 Postby Highteeld » Sun May 17, 2020 7:35 pm

Pretty remarkable CDO; colder than Haiyan's.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#225 Postby MarioProtVI » Sun May 17, 2020 7:37 pm

Amphan’s gone from 85/975 to 150/919 in 12 hours...when was the last time we saw this rate of explosive intensification this fast? On a roll rn to Cat 5 when that eye fully clears..
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#226 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun May 17, 2020 7:38 pm

2020MAY17 191500 4.4 972.2 74.6 4.4 5.4 6.7 1.7T/6hr OFF OFF OFF OFF -55.03 -86.28 EYE -99 IR -15.5 12.81 -86.57 ARCHER MSG1 53.4
2020MAY17 194500 4.5 970.5 77.0 4.5 5.4 6.7 1.7T/6hr OFF OFF OFF OFF -57.53 -86.76 EYE -99 IR -15.5 12.78 -86.50 ARCHER MSG1 53.3
2020MAY17 201500 4.7 966.7 82.2 4.7 5.4 6.7 1.7T/6hr OFF OFF OFF OFF -59.40 -86.67 EYE -99 IR -15.5 12.80 -86.60 ARCHER MSG1 53.4
2020MAY17 204500 4.9 962.7 87.4 4.9 5.4 6.8 1.7T/6hr OFF OFF OFF OFF -52.64 -86.91 EYE -99 IR -15.5 12.90 -86.57 ARCHER MSG1 53.4
2020MAY17 211500 5.1 958.8 92.4 5.1 5.4 6.8 1.7T/6hr OFF OFF OFF OFF -53.99 -86.93 EYE -99 IR -15.5 12.90 -86.58 ARCHER MSG1 53.4
2020MAY17 214500 5.2 956.8 94.8 5.2 5.4 6.7 1.7T/6hr OFF OFF OFF OFF -54.33 -86.10 EYE -99 IR -15.5 12.97 -86.60 FCST MSG1 53.5
2020MAY17 221500 5.4 952.9 99.6 5.4 5.5 6.8 1.7T/6hr OFF OFF OFF OFF -48.15 -85.62 EYE -99 IR -15.5 13.02 -86.58 ARCHER MSG1 53.5
2020MAY17 224500 5.4 952.9 99.6 5.4 5.5 6.9 1.7T/6hr OFF OFF OFF OFF -42.86 -86.06 EYE 8 IR -15.5 13.07 -86.53 ARCHER MSG1 53.4
2020MAY17 230000 5.4 952.8 99.6 5.4 5.6 6.8 1.7T/6hr OFF OFF OFF OFF -46.64 -85.94 EYE -99 IR -15.5 13.12 -86.59 ARCHER MSG1 53.5
2020MAY17 234500 5.4 952.8 99.6 5.4 5.6 6.8 1.7T/6hr OFF OFF OFF OFF -51.98 -86.49 EYE -99 IR -15.5 13.22 -86.49 ARCHER MSG1 53.4
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#227 Postby aspen » Sun May 17, 2020 7:43 pm

Highteeld wrote:Pretty remarkable CDO; colder than Haiyan's.

Whenever we have to compare something to Haiyan, you know it’s the real deal.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#228 Postby Highteeld » Sun May 17, 2020 7:45 pm

MarioProtVI wrote:Amphan’s gone from 85/975 to 150/919 in 12 hours...when was the last time we saw this rate of explosive intensification this fast? On a roll rn to Cat 5 when that eye fully clears..

Hagabis last year likely intensified faster than Amphan; so fast that the JTWC was unable to keep up and they missed the peak!
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#229 Postby Hayabusa » Sun May 17, 2020 7:47 pm

Nancy Smar wrote:01B AMPHAN 200518 0000 13.2N 86.5E IO 130 919


Super Typhoon Amphan
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#230 Postby TheProfessor » Sun May 17, 2020 7:52 pm

This has been my first time watching an IO storm. It's been a bittersweet treat due to the fact of knowing that it's going to be catastrophic for the areas it's moving towards.
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#231 Postby MarioProtVI » Sun May 17, 2020 8:00 pm

IMD is really failing to keep up or they just absolutely suck at estimating the intensity. Apparently they’re calling the increasingly well-defined eye “ragged”. This sort of issue sound familiar to y’all?
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#232 Postby Nancy Smar » Sun May 17, 2020 8:06 pm

ESCS ‘AMPHAN’over central parts of South BoB near lat12.9°N and long 86.4°E, CENTRAL PARTS OF BOB, CYCLONE ALERT FOR WEST BENGAL AND NORTH ODISHA COASTS.
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#233 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun May 17, 2020 8:06 pm

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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#234 Postby aspen » Sun May 17, 2020 8:08 pm

A secondary eyewall is trying to form around the tiny, tight inner one. Will an EWRC start to take hold within the next 12 hours, or will that bit of shear from the east delay it?
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#235 Postby Abdullah » Sun May 17, 2020 8:20 pm

MarioProtVI wrote:IMD is really failing to keep up or they just absolutely suck at estimating the intensity. Apparently they’re calling the increasingly well-defined eye “ragged”. This sort of issue sound familiar to y’all?


They're literally going to kill people.
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#236 Postby aspen » Sun May 17, 2020 8:22 pm

MarioProtVI wrote:IMD is really failing to keep up or they just absolutely suck at estimating the intensity. Apparently they’re calling the increasingly well-defined eye “ragged”. This sort of issue sound familiar to y’all?

When Amphan’s eye is opened up and it skyrockets you 140-150+ kt, the IMD is going to say something dumb like suggesting it’s still a Cat 3 with a W ring.
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#237 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun May 17, 2020 8:23 pm

aspen wrote:A secondary eyewall is trying to form around the tiny, tight inner one. Will an EWRC start to take hold within the next 12 hours, or will that bit of shear from the east delay it?
https://rammb-data.cira.colostate.edu/tc_realtime/products/storms/2020io01/amsusr89/2020io01_amsusr89_202005172307.gif


Shear can delay or disrupt formative eyewall cycles too, as we saw with Hurricane Michael.

130 kt seems reasonable, although I think the pressure is probably more like 935 mb.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#238 Postby aspen » Sun May 17, 2020 8:29 pm

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aspen wrote:A secondary eyewall is trying to form around the tiny, tight inner one. Will an EWRC start to take hold within the next 12 hours, or will that bit of shear from the east delay it?
https://rammb-data.cira.colostate.edu/tc_realtime/products/storms/2020io01/amsusr89/2020io01_amsusr89_202005172307.gif


Shear can delay or disrupt formative eyewall cycles too, as we saw with Hurricane Michael.

130 kt seems reasonable, although I think the pressure is probably more like 935 mb.

Didn’t the same thing happen with Dorian? I thought I heard its EWRC was prevented by a bit of shear, allowing it to bomb out before landfall.
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#239 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun May 17, 2020 8:37 pm

Eye temps warming again.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#240 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun May 17, 2020 8:41 pm

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MarioProtVI wrote:IMD is really failing to keep up or they just absolutely suck at estimating the intensity. Apparently they’re calling the increasingly well-defined eye “ragged”. This sort of issue sound familiar to y’all?

When Amphan’s eye is opened up and it skyrockets you 140-150+ kt, the IMD is going to say something dumb like suggesting it’s still a Cat 3 with a W ring.


A little off-topic, but I've always believed there's a political aspect that pressures the IMD to undervalue the intensity of powerful cyclones in order to keep the chaos to a minimum. There's no way the IMD forecasters are as incompetent as some of their past intensity evaluations would lead one to believe.
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