2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

This is the general tropical discussion area. Anyone can take their shot at predicting a storms path.

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Forum rules

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K. For official information, please refer to products from the National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service.

Help Support Storm2K
Message
Author
Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#321 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jun 07, 2020 1:56 pm

12z euro showing some hints this run as well. have to see how many ensemble members develop something.
0 likes   
Note: If I make a post that is brief. Please refer back to previous posts for the analysis or reasoning. I do not re-write/qoute what my initial post said each time.
If there is nothing before... then just ask :)

Space & Atmospheric Physicist, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University,
I believe the sky is falling...

setxweathergal64
Tropical Depression
Tropical Depression
Posts: 56
Joined: Sat May 26, 2018 8:59 am

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#322 Postby setxweathergal64 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:32 pm

cajungal wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
aspen wrote:It’s only June 7th, and not only have we had 3 named storms, but the models are hinting at up to two more forming in the next 10 days. This is going to be a really long season, isn’t it?


Do you live along the Gulf coast? Honestly I think every state along the Gulf will be hit this year. Louisiana is already crossed off the list.

I would hope you would be right. But in 2005, Louisiana was hit 3 times. Cindy, Katrina, and Rita.


Rita hit Louisiana too? I'm in Bmt Tx area and we had what I thought was a direct hit. We even had to evacuate.
0 likes   
Texas Strong ❤

sma10
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1710
Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:13 pm

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#323 Postby sma10 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:42 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:12z euro showing some hints this run as well. have to see how many ensemble members develop something.


Was just going to mention that Euro has only a ghost of a mention of this system. Will have to see what EPS shows
1 likes   

User avatar
cajungal
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2330
Age: 49
Joined: Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:34 pm
Location: Schriever, Louisiana (60 miles southwest of New Orleans)

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#324 Postby cajungal » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:47 pm

setxweathergal64 wrote:
cajungal wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
Do you live along the Gulf coast? Honestly I think every state along the Gulf will be hit this year. Louisiana is already crossed off the list.

I would hope you would be right. But in 2005, Louisiana was hit 3 times. Cindy, Katrina, and Rita.


Rita hit Louisiana too? I'm in Bmt Tx area and we had what I thought was a direct hit. We even had to evacuate.


It hit Louisiana/tx state line. I was 200 miles to the East. We still got very strong squalls. Below Houma, levees broke and flooded homes
0 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#325 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:48 pm

Definitely needs to be watched.

12z EPS showing more members but different tracks than the 00z.

Image
3 likes   
Note: If I make a post that is brief. Please refer back to previous posts for the analysis or reasoning. I do not re-write/qoute what my initial post said each time.
If there is nothing before... then just ask :)

Space & Atmospheric Physicist, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University,
I believe the sky is falling...

User avatar
Kingarabian
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 15981
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:06 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#326 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:01 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Definitely needs to be watched.

12z EPS showing more members but different tracks than the 00z.

[url]https://i.ibb.co/fvnwgCY/29617319.gif[url]

The fact that there's an early consensus that this won't be crashing into CA or making it into the EPAC means it's time to start watching.
4 likes   
RIP Kobe Bryant

User avatar
CyclonicFury
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2025
Age: 26
Joined: Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:32 pm
Location: NC
Contact:

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#327 Postby CyclonicFury » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:13 pm

This one likely won't have any help from a CCKW or the MJO though. But the GEFS does show favorable shear over the NW Caribbean.
1 likes   
NCSU B.S. in Meteorology Class of 2021. Tropical weather blogger at http://www.cyclonicfury.com. My forecasts and thoughts are NOT official, for official forecasts please consult the National Hurricane Center.

User avatar
Kingarabian
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 15981
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:06 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#328 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:16 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:This one likely won't have any help from a CCKW or the MJO though. But the GEFS does show favorable shear over the NW Caribbean.

Per the Euro, the background Atlantic state is conducive with plenty of rising motion through the end of June.
1 likes   
RIP Kobe Bryant

WeatherEmperor
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 4806
Age: 41
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2003 2:54 pm
Location: South Florida

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#329 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:35 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
CyclonicFury wrote:This one likely won't have any help from a CCKW or the MJO though. But the GEFS does show favorable shear over the NW Caribbean.

Per the Euro, the background Atlantic state is conducive with plenty of rising motion through the end of June.

There are very few EPS members showing development and those that do are mostly week. What is your confidence level something will develop there??


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
0 likes   

User avatar
Kingarabian
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 15981
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:06 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#330 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:47 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:
CyclonicFury wrote:This one likely won't have any help from a CCKW or the MJO though. But the GEFS does show favorable shear over the NW Caribbean.

Per the Euro, the background Atlantic state is conducive with plenty of rising motion through the end of June.

There are very few EPS members showing development and those that do are mostly week. What is your confidence level something will develop there??


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Pre-TC genesis is always a process. Especially when it's like 10 days out. So it will take time for models to get a grasp and it is normal to see them drop or develop a disturbance. Clues to watch for, is whether this runs into CA or not, and if there is going to be development is the time frame decreasing or not.
2 likes   
RIP Kobe Bryant

User avatar
SFLcane
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 10163
Age: 47
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:44 pm
Location: Lake Worth Florida

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#331 Postby SFLcane » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:56 pm

Interesting eps picking up on it.

Edit: not a great signal just 2 members actually showing tc’s
Last edited by SFLcane on Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
0 likes   

Shell Mound
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2434
Age: 32
Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:39 pm
Location: St. Petersburg, FL → Scandinavia

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#332 Postby Shell Mound » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:12 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Definitely needs to be watched.

12z EPS showing more members but different tracks than the 00z.

https://i.ibb.co/fvnwgCY/29617319.gif

Also note the very long-range hints at activity in the MDR by the latter third of June.
0 likes   
CVW / MiamiensisWx / Shell Mound
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K. For official information, please refer to products from the NHC and NWS.

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#333 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:48 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:
CyclonicFury wrote:This one likely won't have any help from a CCKW or the MJO though. But the GEFS does show favorable shear over the NW Caribbean.

Per the Euro, the background Atlantic state is conducive with plenty of rising motion through the end of June.

There are very few EPS members showing development and those that do are mostly week. What is your confidence level something will develop there??


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Many times, that is how it starts. just a few members then it grows over time. the confidence is that GFS, EURO, ICON all are showing something that needs to be watched ...

Convection begins to build in the SW carrib in as little as 72 hours.
2 likes   
Note: If I make a post that is brief. Please refer back to previous posts for the analysis or reasoning. I do not re-write/qoute what my initial post said each time.
If there is nothing before... then just ask :)

Space & Atmospheric Physicist, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University,
I believe the sky is falling...

User avatar
Kingarabian
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 15981
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:06 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#334 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:52 pm

18z GFS rolling. So far through 72 hours it's not tucked that far in the SW Caribbean as it was on the 12z GFS.

Here is the trend for the past 2 GFS runs + the 18z run:
Image

Early on if it can consolidate and lift before crashing into CA there's a pretty good shot for development. Eventually with more development it lifts further north.

Image

Looks like a lot more land interaction on this run keeps a lid on it compared to the 12z run. Still a long way out so there will be plenty of changes.
1 likes   
RIP Kobe Bryant

User avatar
aspen
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 8818
Joined: Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:10 pm
Location: Connecticut, USA

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#335 Postby aspen » Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:40 pm

300+ hr Fantasy Land GFS want two simultaneous TCs, one in the Gulf and the other near Bermuda.
0 likes   
Irene '11 Sandy '12 Hermine '16 5/15/2018 Derecho Fay '20 Isaias '20 Elsa '21 Henri '21 Ida '21

I am only a meteorology enthusiast who knows a decent amount about tropical cyclones. Look to the professional mets, the NHC, or your local weather office for the best information.

Jagno
Category 3
Category 3
Posts: 825
Joined: Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:40 pm
Location: SW Louisiana

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#336 Postby Jagno » Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:44 pm

setxweathergal64 wrote:
cajungal wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
Do you live along the Gulf coast? Honestly I think every state along the Gulf will be hit this year. Louisiana is already crossed off the list.

I would hope you would be right. But in 2005, Louisiana was hit 3 times. Cindy, Katrina, and Rita.


Rita hit Louisiana too? I'm in Bmt Tx area and we had what I thought was a direct hit. We even had to evacuate.

I live in SW Louisiana and lost my home in Rita.
1 likes   

User avatar
cajungal
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2330
Age: 49
Joined: Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:34 pm
Location: Schriever, Louisiana (60 miles southwest of New Orleans)

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#337 Postby cajungal » Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:45 pm

Jagno wrote:
setxweathergal64 wrote:
cajungal wrote:I would hope you would be right. But in 2005, Louisiana was hit 3 times. Cindy, Katrina, and Rita.


Rita hit Louisiana too? I'm in Bmt Tx area and we had what I thought was a direct hit. We even had to evacuate.

I live in SW Louisiana and lost my home in Rita.


:( so sorry
0 likes   

User avatar
Miami Storm Tracker
Category 4
Category 4
Posts: 910
Age: 67
Joined: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:12 pm
Location: Key Largo, Fla.
Contact:

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#338 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:46 pm

I know it is way out in time, but don't like the change in track on the 12- Z
0 likes   

User avatar
toad strangler
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 4543
Joined: Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:09 pm
Location: Earth
Contact:

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#339 Postby toad strangler » Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:07 pm

Miami Storm Tracker wrote:I know it is way out in time, but don't like the change in track on the 12- Z


Change in track on 12z what?
0 likes   

User avatar
Miami Storm Tracker
Category 4
Category 4
Posts: 910
Age: 67
Joined: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:12 pm
Location: Key Largo, Fla.
Contact:

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#340 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:28 pm

Figure of speech Lol, not really a track but the direction that a storm could go if it develops
0 likes   


Return to “Talkin' Tropics”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: AnnularCane, crownweather, southmdwatcher, Stormybajan, TomballEd and 47 guests