2020 Global ACE: NATL - 179.8 - EPAC - 76.5 - WPAC - 148.5 - NIO - 19.2

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Re: 2020 Global ACE: NATL - 6.4 - EPAC - 0.5 - WPAC - 7.4 - NIO - 19.2 - SHEM - 143.8

#21 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:23 pm

While the WPAC remains quiet and the possibilty for more TC development in the Atlantic next week, there is a rare chance for the Atlantic to be ahead of the WPAC in terms of ACE.
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Re: 2020 Global ACE: NATL - 6.7 - EPAC - 0.5 - WPAC - 7.4 - NIO - 19.2

#22 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:50 pm

1900hurricane, the 6.7 is right?
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Re: 2020 Global ACE: NATL - 6.7 - EPAC - 0.5 - WPAC - 7.4 - NIO - 19.2

#23 Postby 1900hurricane » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:54 pm

cycloneye wrote:1900hurricane, the 6.7 is right?

Yuh.

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Re: 2020 Global ACE: NATL - 6.7 - EPAC - 0.6 - WPAC - 7.4 - NIO - 19.2

#24 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:22 pm

Thank you. Let's see how much ACE Cristina gets.
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Re: 2020 Global ACE: NATL - 7.8 - EPAC - 5.5 - WPAC - 7.4 - NIO - 19.2

#25 Postby gfsperpendicular » Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:03 pm

When was the last time the NATL was ahead of the WPAC this late in the year? That can't be common, right?
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Re: 2020 Global ACE: NATL - 7.8 - EPAC - 5.5 - WPAC - 7.4 - NIO - 19.2

#26 Postby StruThiO » Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:33 pm

gfsperpendicular wrote:When was the last time the NATL was ahead of the WPAC this late in the year? That can't be common, right?


Seconding this question
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Re: 2020 Global ACE: NATL - 7.8 - EPAC - 5.5 - WPAC - 7.4 - NIO - 19.2

#27 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:19 pm

gfsperpendicular wrote:When was the last time the NATL was ahead of the WPAC this late in the year? That can't be common, right?

18Z December 31st, 2017.
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#28 Postby StruThiO » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:24 pm

Thx. forgot about 2017
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Re: 2020 Global ACE: NATL - 7.8 - EPAC - 5.8 - WPAC - 7.4 - NIO - 19.2

#29 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:37 pm

No prob. NAtl finished above WPac in ACE on four occasions total: 1998, 1999, 2010, and 2017.
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Re: 2020 Global ACE: NATL - 7.8 - EPAC - 5.8 - WPAC - 7.4 - NIO - 19.2

#30 Postby Chris90 » Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:11 pm

I'd like to tinker with the previous question and ask a slight alternative. The ATL being ahead of the WPAC at year end isn't common, but it's happened, due to the fact that they've had their complete seasons by that point.

Has the ATL ever been ahead of the WPAC in July though? Was there any point during this month in previous years where the ATL was ahead of the WPAC like we currently are, or is this an unprecedented event? Maybe 2005 since the ATL cranked out Dennis and Emily?
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Re: 2020 Global ACE: NATL - 7.8 - EPAC - 5.8 - WPAC - 7.4 - NIO - 19.2

#31 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:32 pm

Not sure this is the exact answer, but this seems relevant.

 https://twitter.com/WxPatel/status/1282101068172861440


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Re: 2020 Global ACE: NATL - 7.8 - EPAC - 5.8 - WPAC - 7.4 - NIO - 19.2

#32 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:53 pm

Also made a few graphs of interest.

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Re: 2020 Global ACE: NATL - 7.8 - EPAC - 6.0 - WPAC - 7.4 - NIO - 19.2

#33 Postby Chris90 » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:48 pm

1900hurricane, thank you for posting that tweet and those graphs, that is what I was looking for. Very helpful, I appreciate it.
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#34 Postby euro6208 » Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:27 am

1900hurricane wrote:No prob. NAtl finished above WPac in ACE on four occasions total: 1998, 1999, 2010, and 2017.


All 4 years had a full blown la nina. I wonder if 2020 will be added to the list. Even the most active Atlantic season 2005 couldn't even beat the WPac.
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Re: 2020 Global ACE: NATL - 7.8 - EPAC - 6.0 - WPAC - 7.4 - NIO - 19.2

#35 Postby StruThiO » Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:46 am

well as we all know WPAC is the cheat code basin. largest areal extent of the deepest warmest waters on earth and you can't even manage 8 ACE in mid July

maybe next year.
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Re: 2020 Global ACE: NATL - 7.8 - EPAC - 6.4 - WPAC - 7.4 - NIO - 19.2

#36 Postby CyclonicFury » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:56 pm

I wonder if this July could end up near record low in ACE for the month globally. So far (at the middle of the month), there has not been a single hurricane or typhoon in any basin this month, and that looks likely to continue for at least the next week.

It's a distinct possibility the Atlantic, eastern Pacific and western Pacific go the entire month without a 74+ mph tropical cyclone, but I wouldn't entirely bet on that just yet.
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#37 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:48 pm

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#38 Postby euro6208 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:11 am

StruThiO wrote:well as we all know WPAC is the cheat code basin. largest areal extent of the deepest warmest waters on earth and you can't even manage 8 ACE in mid July

maybe next year.


Even the king of all basins need to settle down.

La nina keeping it tame. :lol:
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Re: 2020 Global ACE: NATL - 7.8 - EPAC - 6.4 - WPAC - 7.4 - NIO - 19.2

#39 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:39 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:I wonder if this July could end up near record low in ACE for the month globally. So far (at the middle of the month), there has not been a single hurricane or typhoon in any basin this month, and that looks likely to continue for at least the next week.

It's a distinct possibility the Atlantic, eastern Pacific and western Pacific go the entire month without a 74+ mph tropical cyclone, but I wouldn't entirely bet on that just yet.


A quiet July could give way to an active August................. :eek: :double:
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Re: 2020 Global ACE: NATL - 7.8 - EPAC - 6.4 - WPAC - 7.4 - NIO - 19.2

#40 Postby 1900hurricane » Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:59 pm

EPac passed the WPac. All three other NH basins now have more ACE than the WPac.

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