ATL: GONZALO - Remnants - Discussion

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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#501 Postby gatorcane » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:29 am

toad strangler wrote:
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wxman57 wrote:All models not HWRF dissipate it as it nears the Caribbean. Very strong westerly wind shear across the Caribbean now.


Yes the shear is strong and I would be shocked if all the globals are wrong and Gonzalo survives. This shear has been well advertised by the long-range GFS going back to models runs last week so should be of no surprise.


Well, they were all wrong and he appeared. 8-) 'cept CMC I believe


It is the Caribbean shear from the TUTT that I am referring to and it doesn’t look to be subsiding anytime soon which is typical for July. Should start to subside in August.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#502 Postby Nuno » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:29 am

We got some time to follow this. Curious to see how it interacts with the dust and dry air once it enters the E. Caribbean, provided it makes it there. Certainly the warning shot for the basin though.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#504 Postby HurricaneBrain » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:41 am

NHC now forecasting Hurricane Gonzalo by tomorrow.
INIT 22/1500Z 9.9N 43.6W 45 KT 50 MPH
12H 23/0000Z 10.0N 45.3W 55 KT 65 MPH
24H 23/1200Z 10.0N 47.7W 65 KT 75 MPH
36H 24/0000Z 10.1N 50.2W 70 KT 80 MPH
48H 24/1200Z 10.4N 52.8W 70 KT 80 MPH
60H 25/0000Z 10.7N 55.6W 65 KT 75 MPH
72H 25/1200Z 11.4N 58.8W 60 KT 70 MPH
96H 26/1200Z 13.0N 66.0W 50 KT 60 MPH
120H 27/1200Z 15.0N 71.5W 40 KT 45 MPH
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#505 Postby wx98 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:42 am

NHC now forecasts 80 mph Cat 1 by tomorrow

11:00 AM AST Wed Jul 22
Location: 9.9°N 43.6°W
Moving: W at 14 mph
Min pressure: 1000 mb
Max sustained: 50 mph
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#506 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:45 am

They mentioned the eye as well. I am assuming they are just waiting for it to clear more before pulling the trigger.

currently in the pulse down phase as a TS approach hurricane strength. happens to every storm..
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#507 Postby wx98 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:45 am

Beven mentioned in the discussion that this is a “possibly conservative 45 kt.” I would agree here. I think 45 kt is a reasonable estimate at this point, but you could maybe make a case for 50 or even 55 kts.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#508 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:46 am

11AM discussion noted RI as a possibility in the short run.
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#509 Postby drezee » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:51 am


I made this statement almost 12 hours ago. NHC now agrees
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#510 Postby lhpfish » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:52 am

Time to check the supplies here in Broward and make sure the boat trailer is in good condition. Good opportunity to get stuff together, even thought it shouldn't be a threat.

On a plus side, if we get skirted by any type of low pressure, it should have the lobsters walking/stacked for Mini Season!
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#511 Postby toad strangler » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:05 am

gatorcane wrote:
toad strangler wrote:
gatorcane wrote:
Yes the shear is strong and I would be shocked if all the globals are wrong and Gonzalo survives. This shear has been well advertised by the long-range GFS going back to models runs last week so should be of no surprise.


Well, they were all wrong and he appeared. 8-) 'cept CMC I believe


It is the Caribbean shear from the TUTT that I am referring to and it doesn’t look to be subsiding anytime soon which is typical for July. Should start to subside in August.


Yeah, the way I see it is that regardless of what happens with Gonzalo, the MDR produced in July. I look forward to mid August on with bated breath.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#512 Postby Frank2 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:13 am

Not sure why the forecast NW track after 120 Hours, since something that low on a 270 heading at this time of year is likely bound for Central America.

Any pro met comments?

Thanks
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#513 Postby b0tzy29 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:15 am

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Looks like it jumps up to the 10 degree mark at the end there.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#514 Postby NDG » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:17 am

gatorcane wrote:
wxman57 wrote:All models not HWRF dissipate it as it nears the Caribbean. Very strong westerly wind shear across the Caribbean now.


Yes the shear is strong and I would be shocked if all the globals are wrong and Gonzalo survives. This shear has been well advertised by the long-range GFS going back to models runs last week so should be of no surprise


The same GFS shows the shear to get out of the way, haven't you looked that?
Is the dry air that it could have a problem with not the shear, as mentioned by the experts at the NHC.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#515 Postby SFLcane » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:19 am

Frank2 wrote:Not sure why the forecast NW track after 120 Hours, since something that low on a 270 heading at this time of year is likely bound for Central America.

Any pro met comments?

Thanks


There will be a trof across the SE this upcoming weekend.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#516 Postby plasticup » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:19 am

Pretty impressive how quickly this came together in defiance of some of the models. This year we have seen several great demonstrations of usually-reliable models missing or mishandling small systems.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#517 Postby plasticup » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:20 am

b0tzy29 wrote:https://media.giphy.com/media/IdC8Mo5gss8h6Sy8db/giphy.gif
Looks like it jumps up to the 10 degree mark at the end there.


Looks very hurricane-ish to me!
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#518 Postby EquusStorm » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:22 am

Excellent discussion and forecast at 11 imo; I think we'll probably peak earlier than forecast and decline earlier than forecast as usual with these small systems, but definitely don't want to overdo it just in case the trend doesn't continue
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#519 Postby NDG » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:27 am

NDG wrote:
gatorcane wrote:
wxman57 wrote:All models not HWRF dissipate it as it nears the Caribbean. Very strong westerly wind shear across the Caribbean now.


Yes the shear is strong and I would be shocked if all the globals are wrong and Gonzalo survives. This shear has been well advertised by the long-range GFS going back to models runs last week so should be of no surprise


The same GFS shows the shear to get out of the way, haven't you looked that?
Is the dry air that it could have a problem with not the shear, as mentioned by the experts at the NHC.


Edit: By the way, the GFS shear forecast has been horrible past its 5 day range forecast, if it would had been right it would had been ripping Gonzalo apart starting tomorrow way before getting the Windward Islands.

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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#520 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:31 am

And it looks like the pulse back up and run up to hurricane has begun. convection has wrapped around the west quad ( classic momentum shift during pulse down) as new convection builds on the east side..
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