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supercane4867 wrote:12z CMC track is almost identical to Emily 05
Oh no, so México could be on the target
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Both HWRF and HMON do show a weakening phase once the hurricane enters Eastern Caribbean, but it appears to be temporary and more than likely that it will stay intact as a TC.
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Aric Dunn wrote:Global Models are just having a seriously hard time with everything this year..
maybe they can tone down the SAL parameter and the Climatology parameter lol
What is the reason for such short-term model inaccuracy as of late?
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The 12Z Euro looks to just about dissipate this before it reaches the islands likely due to high wind shear and dry air. Looks like a weak area of vorticity.


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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Models
gatorcane wrote:The 12Z Euro looks to dissipate this before it reaches the islands likely due to high wind shear and dry air. Looks like a weak area of vorticity.
https://i.postimg.cc/wMsRs8ZZ/ecmwf-uv850-vort-watl-4.png
Some of you’ll are dismissing this storm too quickly.
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gatorcane wrote:The 12Z Euro looks to just about dissipate this before it reaches the islands likely due to high wind shear and dry air. Looks like a weak area of vorticity.
https://i.postimg.cc/wMsRs8ZZ/ecmwf-uv850-vort-watl-4.png
Models do not do well with small storms.
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The fact that 12z euro deepens 91L over 10mb inland just shows how off the global models have been this year.
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Note: CTCX is the US Navy COAMPS model initialized with GFS initial conditions.
https://twitter.com/willkomaromi/status/1286001826521706496
https://twitter.com/willkomaromi/status/1286001826521706496
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The 12zcanadian has this hitting Texas as a minimal hurricane at day 10, no other model has that solution but the GFS ensembles show something for Texas at day 10 so may have to watch this even if it falls apart in the eastern Caribbean especially in the western GOM
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Please help me to understand the difference between the two graphics. Both say 12Z and yes I see one goes out further in time, but the troubling thing I see is a storm sitting north of the Islands heading to the southern Bahamas not a track I wan to see. I thought Gonz was staying down south as they say a Caribbean Cruiser.
Please help me to understand the difference between the two graphics. Both say 12Z and yes I see one goes out further in time, but the troubling thing I see is a storm sitting north of the Islands heading to the southern Bahamas not a track I wan to see. I thought Gonz was staying down south as they say a Caribbean Cruiser.
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Hammy wrote:gatorcane wrote:The 12Z Euro looks to just about dissipate this before it reaches the islands likely due to high wind shear and dry air. Looks like a weak area of vorticity.
https://i.postimg.cc/wMsRs8ZZ/ecmwf-uv850-vort-watl-4.png
Models do not do well with small storms.
Dorian last year was probably the ultimate example of this ^
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https://severe.worldweather.wmo.int/TCF ... kBeven.pdf
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Models
18Z GFS with another subtle shift north (now north of Barbados), and probably strongest run since the 00Z this morning.


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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Models
The GFS is stronger and more north on the 18Z run with strengthening in the Eastern Caribbean Sea. Quite a change:


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GFS continuing the trend of a stronger storm on approach to the Lesser Antilles, which also allows for a slower system, and a more poleward trajectory while in the Caribbean. That increases separation between Gonzalo and the strong, extremely unfavorable low level wind flow in the Caribbean. This run of the GFS should show the farthest west Gonzalo has gotten yet.
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18Z GFS so far very similar to the 12Z NAVGEM....
Edit: Unsurprisingly, loses the small storm over Haiti.
Edit: Unsurprisingly, loses the small storm over Haiti.
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GFS is on collision course with Hispaniola. That would bring a swift death to this small system. It may regenerate later on tho.
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