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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#621 Postby Nimbus » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:03 pm

Its the perfect storm at the moment, very symmetrical without any undercutting shear to disrupt the tiny moisture envelope. The low level structure could run out from under the convection if a faster forward motion ensues, then we would get cycling bursts of convection till the slowdown.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#622 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:14 pm

TXNT26 KNES 221833
TCSNTL

A. 07L (GONZALO)

B. 22/1730Z

C. 9.9N

D. 44.3W

E. THREE/GOES-E

F. T3.0/3.5

G. IR/EIR/VIS/AMSR2

H. REMARKS...6/10 BANDING RESULTED IN A DT OF 3.0. MET AND PT ARE
3.0. FT IS BASED ON DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

22/1634Z 10.0N 44.1W AMSR2


...ZHU


This is some JTWC tier dvoraking. Using curved band when it's trying to clear an eye is something else.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#623 Postby St0rmTh0r » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:24 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:We have 3/4 of a donut of -70 to -85 tops around the center now.

The eye up through all layers should begin to clear out with this type of convection.

How many feet do those towers get in the eyewall?
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#624 Postby tiger_deF » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:24 pm

Operation mitten is a go
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#625 Postby Chemmers » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:33 pm

Definitely trying to become the first major hurricane of the season
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#626 Postby GCANE » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:40 pm

Hot towers can reach into the stratosphere which is about 10 to 12 miles at 10N latitude.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_tower
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#627 Postby msbee » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:42 pm

RT23 wrote:
Do_For_Love wrote:I hope people in the islands are aware of Gonzalo! Seems possible it could pack a punch when it gets there...They probably need all the prep time they can get with COVID and everything


We are watching very closely here in BARBADOS, the EOC is gearing up and preps being made, Volunteer Emergency Teams are on standby. I know cuz I am a Volunteer F.R


Good luck! Stay safe!
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#628 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:54 pm

The WV loop really tells the story of those hot towers

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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#629 Postby Hurricane Mike » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:57 pm

Gonzalo is organizing but the small size makes it very vulnerable.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#630 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:04 pm

Hurricane Mike wrote:Gonzalo is organizing but the small size makes it very vulnerable.


It's small size is what is keeping it in the game...needs less fuel to intensify, keeps it from sucking in dry air to the north, and allows it to sit at this lower latitude. If it was a medium to large storm it would not survive.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#631 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:10 pm

Thanks for the explanation G-cane
You are one very knowledgable person.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#632 Postby GCANE » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:12 pm

Miami Storm Tracker wrote:Thanks for the explanation G-cane
You are one very knowledgable person.


Much thanks Miami Storm Tracker.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#633 Postby tiger_deF » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:18 pm

Do tropical systems produce convection which helps lower pressures and organize the overall structure, or is the production of convection naturally caused by a deepening cyclone?
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#634 Postby Frank2 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:22 pm

Not as classic-looking right now as this time yesterday, when it had that CV appearance. My guess the dry air is having an effect. We'll see what the NHC says in their next discussion.

https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/f ... d=AL072020
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#635 Postby Nimbus » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:25 pm

tiger_deF wrote:Do tropical systems produce convection which helps lower pressures and organize the overall structure, or is the production of convection naturally caused by a deepening cyclone?


Hot usually moist air rises and is replaced by inflow at the surface again usually moist.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#636 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:27 pm

AL, 07, 2020072218, , BEST, 0, 99N, 444W, 45, 1000, TS, 34, NEQ, 30, 10, 10, 30, 1011, 150, 20, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, GONZALO, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 019,
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#637 Postby cainjamin » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:32 pm

Frank2 wrote:Not as classic-looking right now as this time yesterday, when it had that CV appearance. My guess the dry air is having an effect. We'll see what the NHC says in their next discussion.

https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/f ... d=AL072020


Yeah seeing a lot less spiral banding than this time yesterday and compared to this morning. I wouldn't be surpised if this is a sign of Gonzalo moving into a drier airmass. Central convection is still pretty strong though at least.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#638 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:32 pm

Frank2 wrote:Not as classic-looking right now as this time yesterday, when it had that CV appearance. My guess the dry air is having an effect. We'll see what the NHC says in their next discussion.

https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/f ... d=AL072020


Curious what they’ll say. The cirrus canopy has expanded a bit in the last hour and deep convection is holding strong. One thing that could be helping it strengthen in this regard is that there isn’t a dominant band that’s holding deep convection outside of the cdo. The existence of a band like that usually indicates leveling off intensity. None of that here.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#639 Postby BYG Jacob » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:34 pm

Or he could be transitioning to a CDO dominant form
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#640 Postby Kazmit » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:39 pm

Any guesses on NHC intensity at 5pm? I'm thinking 65kts, but it's the NHC so I wouldn't be surprised if it's lower.
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