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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#281 Postby Nimbus » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:36 pm

Slowing down the forecast a little sounded like a possible stall till Sunday landfall under that building high?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#282 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:49 pm

Wrong thread
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#283 Postby NXStumpy_Robothing » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:55 pm

HurricaneEnzo wrote:http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/sal/g16split/movies/goes16split.html


SAL is bearing down on Gonzalo and he is starting to lose the battle. But at the same time he is also getting closer to better conditions as most of the SAL has passed him by.

Just a little bit more to deal with but the only way out is through. If he can hold on a while longer might have a chance for bigger things.

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I believe you posted this in the wrong thread. Insightful to see the SAL-Gonzalo interactions, though.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#284 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:05 pm

PTC at 11.

Potential Tropical Cyclone EIGHT
As of 00:00 UTC Jul 23, 2020:

Location: 25.7°N 87.9°W
Maximum Winds: 25 kt Gusts: 35 kt
Minimum Central Pressure: 1009 mb
Environmental Pressure: 1012 mb
Radius of Circulation: 120 NM
Radius of Maximum Wind: 40 NM
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#285 Postby aspen » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:05 pm

It’s PTC-8 on Tropical Tidbits
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#286 Postby Nimbus » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:08 pm

aspen wrote:It’s PTC-8 on Tropical Tidbits


The high cirrus in the water vapor loop.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/sat ... uct=wv-mid
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion: Breaking News= PTC at 11 PM

#287 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:11 pm

Smart move by NHC to post the PTC advisory this evening!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion: Breaking News= PTC at 11 PM

#288 Postby zhukm29 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:11 pm

Last visible shots for the day... will be interesting to see how PTC 8 evolves tomorrow.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#289 Postby sphelps8681 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:12 pm

cycloneye wrote:PTC at 11.

Potential Tropical Cyclone EIGHT
As of 00:00 UTC Jul 23, 2020:

Location: 25.7°N 87.9°W
Maximum Winds: 25 kt Gusts: 35 kt
Minimum Central Pressure: 1009 mb
Environmental Pressure: 1012 mb
Radius of Circulation: 120 NM
Radius of Maximum Wind: 40 NM


I am sorry where would this be located?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#290 Postby aspen » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:12 pm

Nimbus wrote:
aspen wrote:It’s PTC-8 on Tropical Tidbits


The high cirrus in the water vapor loop.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/sat ... uct=wv-mid

That’s a lot of moisture for PTC-8 to work with. It’ll also be over water for 48-72 hours. The biggest issue will be how broad the circulation is, which can be seen in that WV loop.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#291 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:14 pm

sphelps8681 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:PTC at 11.

Potential Tropical Cyclone EIGHT
As of 00:00 UTC Jul 23, 2020:

Location: 25.7°N 87.9°W
Maximum Winds: 25 kt Gusts: 35 kt
Minimum Central Pressure: 1009 mb
Environmental Pressure: 1012 mb
Radius of Circulation: 120 NM
Radius of Maximum Wind: 40 NM


I am sorry where would this be located?


Here is the link to tropical tidbits.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/storminfo/
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion: Breaking News= PTC at 11 PM

#292 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:23 pm

Here is the transition of the 00z best track from 91L to 08L.

AL, 08, 2020072300, , BEST, 0, 257N, 879W, 25, 1009, LO, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 120, 40, 35, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 018, TRANSITIONED, alC12020 to al082020,
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#293 Postby Nimbus » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:26 pm

aspen wrote:
Nimbus wrote:
aspen wrote:It’s PTC-8 on Tropical Tidbits


The high cirrus in the water vapor loop.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/sat ... uct=wv-mid

That’s a lot of moisture for PTC-8 to work with. It’ll also be over water for 48-72 hours. The biggest issue will be how broad the circulation is, which can be seen in that WV loop.


When the high cirrus clouds expand outward like that it highlights the ridge building up around 200 mb's.
Centered in a ridge dome the steering currents often collapse giving more time for development.
Even 24 hours of delay before landfall can make a big difference in flooding and sometimes even intensity.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion: Breaking News= PTC at 11 PM

#294 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:33 pm

Fading convection everywhere except right over the center.. good sign of an organizing TC.

and pressure continues to fall at the buoy right near the convection

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion: Breaking News= PTC at 11 PM

#295 Postby MississippiWx » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:05 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Fading convection everywhere except right over the center.. good sign of an organizing TC.

and pressure continues to fall at the buoy right near the convection

https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/plot_met.php?station=42001&meas=pres&uom=E&time_diff=-5&time_label=CDT


Yeah it needed to rid itself of all the other scattered convection. Centralized convection will help this tighten up quicker. I think most models are sleeping on this one.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#296 Postby HurricaneBrain » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:20 pm

Recon headed back at 5:45 am EDT. I have my bets on them finding Hanna then.
 https://twitter.com/mikeadcockwx/status/1286118131174453249


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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#297 Postby HurricaneBrain » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:43 pm

We have Tropical Depression 8. Skipped the PTC designation. Tropical Storm watch issued for most of Texas coast.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#298 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:45 pm

Straight to TD
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#299 Postby EquusStorm » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:45 pm

TD8. That happened fast
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#300 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:45 pm

HurricaneBrain wrote:We have Tropical Depression 8.


Makes sense. the llc was defined enough earlier from recon.. just lacked organized convection.

now we have some better organized convection around the center.

though I wish recon had sampled the full wind field. we would probably already have Hanna
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