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#1881 Postby AnnularCane » Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:00 pm

Chris90 wrote:Current indicators suggest July 20th was the bell ringing this year instead of August 20th. Off to the races we go.


Maybe somebody got confused and rang the bell a month early. :lol:
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#1882 Postby Shell Mound » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:07 am

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#1883 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:49 am

:uarrow: Funny he mentions 1997 considering that was a Super El Niño and we are currently nowhere near that extreme.
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#1884 Postby EquusStorm » Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:37 pm

Also notably none of those initial 1997 storms were tropical wave-spawned.
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#1885 Postby CyclonicFury » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:33 pm

It's looking quite likely we'll have a July hurricane of tropical origin with Hanna.

Since the active era began in 1995, the following years have featured a July Atlantic hurricane of tropical origin: 1996, 2003, 2005, 2008, and 2018. All of these seasons were above average in activity, and the average ACE between all of those years was 174.
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#1886 Postby Hammy » Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:17 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:It's looking quite likely we'll have a July hurricane of tropical origin with Hanna.

Since the active era began in 1995, the following years have featured a July Atlantic hurricane of tropical origin: 1996, 2003, 2005, 2008, and 2018. All of these seasons were above average in activity, and the average ACE between all of those years was 174.


1995 as well, Erin technically became a hurricane on July 31 if you go by eastern time which probably bumps that average up a bit.
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#1887 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Jul 25, 2020 6:53 am

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#1888 Postby aspen » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:13 am

In a post a few weeks back, I did an analysis of all seasons since 1980 and found that those with at least one AEW-based system in July tend to be above-average or hyperactive. I also mentioned that multiple AEW July systems, including at least one hurricane, would signal a very active season. So what have we seen so far?

40 kt TS Edouard, non-tropical origins.

50 kt TS Fay, non-tropical origins.

55 kt TS Gonzalo in the MDR.

80 kt Hurricane Hanna in the Gulf from an AEW.

Invest 92L, decent shot of becoming a MDR hurricane.

July 2020 has seen near record levels of activity in terms of named storms and has surpassed 2005’s records for the earliest fifth, sixth, seventh, and eighth named storms. If 92L becomes Isaias, which is looking ever more likely now that more global models are jumping on board, that’ll be the earliest ninth named storm and tie 2005’s record five July systems. Half of the systems this month have come from AEWs, making 2020 one of the few years with more than one July AEW system. On top of that, this is all coming after an absolutely enormous burst of SAL in late June/early July.

The signs cannot be clearer: if July is this active with multiple systems of tropical origins, then the rest of the year will continue to be hyperactive. Things could really get rolling between August 20th-30th, when the Euro VP anomaly forecast shows a favorable environment across the tropical Atlantic.
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#1890 Postby cainjamin » Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:26 am

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Not something you see in July very often.
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#1891 Postby tiger_deF » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:15 am

cainjamin wrote:https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/xgtwo/two_atl_5d0.png

Not something you see in July very often.


This is like something you'd consider the peak of the season for several other years..
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#1892 Postby FireRat » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:52 am

tiger_deF wrote:
cainjamin wrote:https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/xgtwo/two_atl_5d0.png

Not something you see in July very often.


This is like something you'd consider the peak of the season for several other years..


Signs of the times...
Still can't believe it's JULY 25. Imagine Aug 25 or Sept 25.
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#1893 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:10 pm


So what exactly would this mean? A slower pace than what we’ve seen? Michael Ventrice sure loves to hug onto these Kelvin Waves. I recall him making a statement about not being able to buy a hurricane in the Atlantic in early September 2017 then we had Irma, Jose, and Maria along with others.
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#1894 Postby CyclonicFury » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:11 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:

So what exactly would this mean? A slower pace than what we’ve seen? Michael Ventrice sure loves to hug onto these Kelvin Waves. I recall him making a statement about not being able to buy a hurricane in the Atlantic in early September 2017 then we had Irma, Jose, and Maria along with others.

The Atlantic base state appears favorable enough this year to the point where a suppressed MJO or CCKW likely won't limit activity much, IMO.

Gonzalo still formed during a suppressed KW in July, although it didn't reach hurricane strength, early MDR development is still a concerning sign for peak.
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#1896 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:51 pm

watch that well defined MLC in the bahamas in the morning. if deep convection builds in association with that it could quickly work to the surface.
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#1897 Postby BYG Jacob » Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:51 am

Is being on the “I” storm before August a bad sign? Asking for a friend :wink:
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#1898 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:53 am

BYG Jacob wrote:Is being on the “I” storm before August a bad sign? Asking for a friend :wink:

nah everything's fine /s :wink:
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#1899 Postby StruThiO » Sun Jul 26, 2020 5:07 am

BYG Jacob wrote:Is being on the “I” storm before August a bad sign? Asking for a friend :wink:


might need to consider a 2013 repeat since gonzalo dissipated

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#1900 Postby toad strangler » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:40 am

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