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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#681 Postby Blown Away » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:42 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:90 hours after crossing Hispaniola and eastern cuba

https://i.ibb.co/tMQr7V9/Capture.png


Is 18z a north shift? Can you post the next position?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#682 Postby STRiZZY » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:44 pm

Blown Away wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:90 hours after crossing Hispaniola and eastern cuba

https://i.ibb.co/tMQr7V9/Capture.png


Is 18z a north shift? Can you post the next position?


18z only goes out 90hrs. Yes, it is slightly north of the 12z by a hair.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#683 Postby SFLcane » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:47 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:90 hours after crossing Hispaniola and eastern cuba

https://i.ibb.co/tMQr7V9/Capture.png
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What TS intensity?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#684 Postby SFLcane » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:48 pm

Never mind not even a closed low just a strong wave.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#685 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:08 pm

A few of the Euro ensemble members are a little more bullish
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#686 Postby Hammy » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:12 pm

STRiZZY wrote:The big question is does 92l try to consolidate the southern lobe or northern lobe. Looks like the southern side is winning the fight right now. All of the models right now have been struggling with this and develop the northern lobe.

https://www.weathernerds.org/satellite/sessions/GOES16_1km_ir_202007280025_3.75_19.00_-64.00_-35.25_vis1_ltng16_hgwy_warn_weathernerds.png


Progression reminds me of Gabrielle in 2013 (which shows just how completely off things were--the atmosphere essentially stayed in July and jumped straight to November later on) being large and seemingly two competing segments of the wave. Hermine in 2016 also did something similar.

Aric Dunn wrote:90 hours after crossing Hispaniola and eastern cuba

https://i.ibb.co/tMQr7V9/Capture.png


Is it actually getting sliced in half by the Greater Antilles due to the size?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#687 Postby Ubuntwo » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:15 pm

0z SHIPS out and it's an uptick from the bearish 18z run. Tropical storm in 24 hours, hurricane in a week.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#688 Postby STRiZZY » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:17 pm

Hammy wrote:
STRiZZY wrote:The big question is does 92l try to consolidate the southern lobe or northern lobe. Looks like the southern side is winning the fight right now. All of the models right now have been struggling with this and develop the northern lobe.

https://www.weathernerds.org/satellite/sessions/GOES16_1km_ir_202007280025_3.75_19.00_-64.00_-35.25_vis1_ltng16_hgwy_warn_weathernerds.png


Progression reminds me of Gabrielle in 2013 (which shows just how completely off things were--the atmosphere essentially stayed in July and jumped straight to November later on) being large and seemingly two competing segments of the wave. Hermine in 2016 also did something similar.

Aric Dunn wrote:90 hours after crossing Hispaniola and eastern cuba

https://i.ibb.co/tMQr7V9/Capture.png


Is it actually getting sliced in half by the Greater Antilles due to the size?


Essentially yes. If you go back to the euro's 0z run on the 24th only maybe the top 1/3rd of the storm was interacting with the GA's and it was able to recover from that and consolidate south.. Now it's being split in half with all the wind and voracity to the north of the GA's.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#689 Postby gatorcane » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:18 pm

00Z guidance, a bit of an uptick on intensity. TVCN (model consensus) into the Bahamas:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#690 Postby Blown Away » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:22 pm

Big stall just off SFL on 00z TVCN.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#691 Postby CM2 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:22 pm

gatorcane wrote:00Z guidance, a bit of an uptick on intensity. TVCN (model consensus) into the Bahamas:

https://i.postimg.cc/YScmxSqf/92-L-tracks-00z.png

https://i.postimg.cc/QCMBM90s/92-L-intensity-00z.png

With planes going into the storm tomorrow, the data for the storm recon should really improve model runs. For now the runs are gonna be garbage.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#692 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:25 pm

So 18z guidance overall slightly more bullish. Where (if) the system consolidates and possible interaction with Hispaniola still a wild card in the long term.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#693 Postby STRiZZY » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:28 pm

Looking at the euro 12z shear maps from today the Caribbean looks much more favorable like it did on the 0z from the 24th where it blew up into an intense hurricane in the Yucatan Chanel.

If the southern lobe can consolidate I'd like to see what the Euro will pump out. In fact the last several runs of the euro look much more like the 24th's 0z run when it comes to shear in the Caribbean.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#694 Postby floridasun78 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:30 pm

CM2 wrote:
gatorcane wrote:00Z guidance, a bit of an uptick on intensity. TVCN (model consensus) into the Bahamas:

https://i.postimg.cc/YScmxSqf/92-L-tracks-00z.png

https://i.postimg.cc/QCMBM90s/92-L-intensity-00z.png

With planes going into the storm tomorrow, the data for the storm recon should really improve model runs. For now the runs are gonna be garbage.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#695 Postby SFLcane » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:32 pm

Ubuntwo wrote:0z SHIPS out and it's an uptick from the bearish 18z run. Tropical storm in 24 hours, hurricane in a week.


Useless for intensity with waves. You can use it for environment though. In this case Shear 20+ knots and RH below 50.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#696 Postby STRiZZY » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:32 pm

Euro 18z ensembles more bullish. Few of the members are hurricanes just missing Florida.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#697 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:59 pm

This latest GFS makes no sense. It sees the southern lobe developing and it keeps developing , then at 36 hrs just kills it and goes with the northern half. I dont buy that at all.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#698 Postby sma10 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:02 pm

STRiZZY wrote:Euro 18z ensembles more bullish. Few of the members are hurricanes just missing Florida.


Just curious Strizzy - what path do those hurricanes take? Presumably avoid Hispaniola?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#699 Postby STRiZZY » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:10 pm

sma10 wrote:
STRiZZY wrote:Euro 18z ensembles more bullish. Few of the members are hurricanes just missing Florida.


Just curious Strizzy - what path do those hurricanes take? Presumably avoid Hispaniola?


Correct, north of the Greater Antilles.

Of the members that miss the GA's 3 or 4 are weak and hit the keys.

2 of them hit SW FLA. One is between 1009-1000mb and one between 999-980mb.

3 of them run the length of the Bahamas and are between 979-960mb.

FWIW the majority of the members that develop anything look to miss the GA's
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#700 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:48 pm

00z NAM just because ... cant be any worse than the global models at this point this year lol

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 72800&fh=0
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