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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#981 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:39 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:just wait until the data come back from recon and the center is location ESE of barbados.. the model consensus goes bye bye later.

I think tomorrow nights NOAA G-IV plane will be the one that gets the data that should help the models. Hopefully that’s in by 00z Thursday.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#982 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:54 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:just wait until the data come back from recon and the center is location ESE of barbados.. the model consensus goes bye bye later.

I still dont see how this gets as far north as is being forecast. It's screamin' to the west right now.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#983 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:56 pm

I see the 12z Euro gets this into the north central gulfcoast
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#984 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:03 pm

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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#985 Postby sma10 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:05 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:just wait until the data come back from recon and the center is location ESE of barbados.. the model consensus goes bye bye later.


Aric, what do you think the net result of track forecast will be when they place center ESE of barbados?
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#986 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:06 pm

The big question mark is how strong will the trough be!! Models sometimes over do the troughs come July-sept
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#987 Postby DestinHurricane » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:10 pm

I'm starting to think its track is going to split the spine of the GAs. If it shifts south anymore the track will be right on the GAs.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#988 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:10 pm

sma10 wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:just wait until the data come back from recon and the center is location ESE of barbados.. the model consensus goes bye bye later.


Aric, what do you think the net result of track forecast will be when they place center ESE of barbados?


Hard to say. that lobe to the nE will cause some tugging.. but ridging to the NOrth is quite strong at the moment.

it is still possible to go south of Hispaniola.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#989 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:11 pm

If it is indeed ESE of Barbados the models will shift considerably south and an analog tropical system could be at the least Bonnie 2004 and at worst Charley 2004 in terms of track those systems are also good analogs so we’ll see what happens
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#990 Postby DestinHurricane » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:15 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:If it is indeed ESE of Barbados the models will shift considerably south and an analog tropical system could be at the least Bonnie 2004 and at worst Charley 2004 in terms of track those systems are also good analogs so we’ll see what happens


A more west solution would be Dennis 2005. Surprised this hasn't been mentioned as it was in July as well.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#991 Postby gatorcane » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:48 pm

12Z Euro ensembles just released. They are clustered right over South Florida or vicinity of with pressures from 986MB to 1009MB. Most take 92l right over Hispaniola. Quite a few make it into the GOM but stay weak.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#992 Postby Cpv17 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:51 pm

Interesting to note that the 12z Euro takes this as far west as the central Gulf.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#993 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:53 pm

two of the EPS develop the east lobe and move them WSW into the NE carrib lol
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#994 Postby WeatherEmperor » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:23 pm

Looks like we have 2 camps in the models. The stronger models are more to the east (Ukmet, Hwrf, Hmon) and the weaker solutions are more to the west (Euro, Gfs and Canadian). Which one is correct is the big question.

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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#995 Postby Cpv17 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:52 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:Looks like we have 2 camps in the models. The stronger models are more to the east (Ukmet, Hwrf, Hmon) and the weaker solutions are more to the west (Euro, Gfs and Canadian). Which one is correct is the big question.

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They will shift even further sw imo.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#996 Postby SoupBone » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:08 pm

I keep going back to the Para, and while I acknowledge that I fully understand that it's in testing mode, it's going to bust big time if it doesn't verify.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#997 Postby SFLcane » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:13 pm

18z NAM for what is worth splits in between PR and DR which could mean a stronger storm.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#998 Postby caneseddy » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:15 pm

18z NAM (I know I know) has a TD/weak TS approaching South Florida. Briefly intensifies to a solid TS north of Hispaniola but then weakens it back over the Bahamas.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#999 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:17 pm

Classic. NAM no longer develops this into a hurricane after the run prior to this showed it shoving the east cost.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1000 Postby caneseddy » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:20 pm

Don't know if any one mentioned but the 12z HWRF-Para (which is replacing the HWRF) has a 989mb storm landfalling on the Miami-Dade/Broward line

If already mentioned, my apologies
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