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Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#961 Postby GeneratorPower » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:28 pm

JaxGator wrote:Well, despite its forward speed, PTC 9 atm has started a WNW movement.
Per NHC:
8:00 PM AST Tue Jul 28
Location: 14.2°N 58.7°W
Moving: WNW at 25 mph
Min pressure: 1007 mb
Max sustained: 40 mph

I think the 25mph motion is because of the center reformation. It’s not moving that fast.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#962 Postby aspen » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:29 pm

Blown Away wrote:
aspen wrote:That southward center fix for the 8pm intermediate advisory is going to throw every previous model solution into a paper shredder. Who knows what’s even going to come out of this now? Will it even get far enough north to bring impacts to the Greater Antilles or the Bahamas?


Yep, Hispaniola is waiting to consume PTC#9... Euro may be right once again...

If PTC-9 doesn’t start gaining latitude fast, it’s going to run into Cuba or Jamaica at this rate.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#963 Postby Visioen » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:34 pm

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Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#964 Postby chaser1 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:34 pm

AnnularCane wrote:Is this expected to slow down at any point?


Last time I looked (about 18 hr.'s ago?), East/Central Caribbean forecast 500 mb flow appeared significantly more relaxed at about 10 knots.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#965 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:35 pm

JaxGator wrote:Well, despite its forward speed, PTC 9 atm has started a WNW movement.
Per NHC:
8:00 PM AST Tue Jul 28
Location: 14.2°N 58.7°W
Moving: WNW at 25 mph
Min pressure: 1007 mb
Max sustained: 40 mph


Per 5pm, PTC9 was to reach 58.8 at 06z, it’s there now. Better start climbing or Hispaniola is its future. Makes the angle to miss the big island a little harder IMO.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#966 Postby chaser1 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:36 pm

aspen wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
aspen wrote:That southward center fix for the 8pm intermediate advisory is going to throw every previous model solution into a paper shredder. Who knows what’s even going to come out of this now? Will it even get far enough north to bring impacts to the Greater Antilles or the Bahamas?


Yep, Hispaniola is waiting to consume PTC#9... Euro may be right once again...

If PTC-9 doesn’t start gaining latitude fast, it’s going to run into Cuba or Jamaica at this rate.


That could ultimately be a bad play for Florida.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#967 Postby Kazmit » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:37 pm

aspen wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
aspen wrote:That southward center fix for the 8pm intermediate advisory is going to throw every previous model solution into a paper shredder. Who knows what’s even going to come out of this now? Will it even get far enough north to bring impacts to the Greater Antilles or the Bahamas?


Yep, Hispaniola is waiting to consume PTC#9... Euro may be right once again...

If PTC-9 doesn’t start gaining latitude fast, it’s going to run into Cuba or Jamaica at this rate.

How about the Guajira Peninsula in Venezuela? :lol:
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Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#968 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:38 pm

There is no closed circulation, so I'm not sure you can say it's tracking more south than anticipated.Of course, if one doesn't form it's probably westward ho.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#969 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:38 pm

They likely shifted the center position south do to the winds turning out of the WNW to NW in barbados.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#970 Postby SouthFLTropics » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:40 pm

I think what we need to really be looking for to happen is two things:

1.) A slowdown as it approaches the Eastern Caribbean
2.) A relocation and/or consolidation of the center on the North side of PR and Hispaniola
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Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#971 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:41 pm

Why is it moving so fast? Weren’t trade winds supposed to be slow this season?

At this point I wouldn’t loose sleep over this mess as it’ll likely never amount to anything significant. Conditions just aren’t favorable out there even with a passing Kelvin Wave.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#972 Postby aspen » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:43 pm

I’d love to see the looks on everyones’ faces if this becomes a Caribbean Crusier and never makes it to or above the Greater Antilles. Potentially unlikely, but PTC-9 really does not want to go north, it seems.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#973 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:44 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:They likely shifted the center position south do to the winds turning out of the WNW to NW in barbados.


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Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#974 Postby tiger_deF » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:50 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:Why is it moving so fast? Weren’t trade winds supposed to be slow this season?

At this point I wouldn’t loose sleep over this mess as it’ll likely never amount to anything significant. Conditions just aren’t favorable out there even with a passing Kelvin Wave.


It's late July and just a few days ago we had a hurricane make landfall on the CONUS. Just because one absolute unit of a wave is struggling to pull it together doesn't mean conditions are suddenly suboptimal
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Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#975 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:52 pm

tiger_deF wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:Why is it moving so fast? Weren’t trade winds supposed to be slow this season?

At this point I wouldn’t loose sleep over this mess as it’ll likely never amount to anything significant. Conditions just aren’t favorable out there even with a passing Kelvin Wave.


It's late July and just a few days ago we had a hurricane make landfall on the CONUS. Just because one absolute unit of a wave is struggling to pull it together doesn't mean conditions are suddenly suboptimal

this storm shouldn't really be here right now in the first place. the waves in 2017 during this time of year failed to develop in this location.

how this event can be spun into an outlook for an unfavorable season is beyond me.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#976 Postby Evil Jeremy » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:55 pm

aspen wrote:I’d love to see the looks on everyones’ faces if this becomes a Caribbean Crusier and never makes it to or above the Greater Antilles. Potentially unlikely, but PTC-9 really does not want to go north, it seems.


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Advisory 1: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/gr ... 0505W5.GIF

5 days later: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/gr ... 0505W5.GIF
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Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#977 Postby aspen » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:56 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:They likely shifted the center position south do to the winds turning out of the WNW to NW in barbados.


https://i.ibb.co/pvRfhjk/Capture.png

Convection is blowing up like crazy there. The longer it persists, the quicker the center will be able to close off down there. The overall circulation is still broad and elongated but this convection should help pinch off the SW end.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#978 Postby Visioen » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:57 pm

AxaltaRacing24 wrote:
tiger_deF wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:Why is it moving so fast? Weren’t trade winds supposed to be slow this season?

At this point I wouldn’t loose sleep over this mess as it’ll likely never amount to anything significant. Conditions just aren’t favorable out there even with a passing Kelvin Wave.


It's late July and just a few days ago we had a hurricane make landfall on the CONUS. Just because one absolute unit of a wave is struggling to pull it together doesn't mean conditions are suddenly suboptimal

this storm shouldn't really be here right now in the first place. the waves in 2017 during this time of year failed to develop in this location.

how this event can be spun into an outlook for an unfavorable season is beyond me.

How TheStormExpert's post can be spun into an outlook for an unfavorable season is also beyond me :lol:
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Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#979 Postby CM2 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:01 pm

I believe as we type, 9 is developing a core. Through the vapor and microwave we can see how the core is taking shape a little further south than expected but it is there. Of course this is my opinion from looking at these images but I'm not crazy right, the models had this happening.

Microwave also shows a little ring in the works around the same area.


Unironically the western blob is winning out. Team east blob devastated :lol:
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Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#980 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:05 pm

Visioen wrote:
AxaltaRacing24 wrote:
tiger_deF wrote:
It's late July and just a few days ago we had a hurricane make landfall on the CONUS. Just because one absolute unit of a wave is struggling to pull it together doesn't mean conditions are suddenly suboptimal

this storm shouldn't really be here right now in the first place. the waves in 2017 during this time of year failed to develop in this location.

how this event can be spun into an outlook for an unfavorable season is beyond me.

How TheStormExpert's post can be spun into an outlook for an unfavorable season is also beyond me :lol:

its not just today's post that i was talking about in particular lol. and its not just him either.

there's been 2013 comparisons over the past 2 days because of the dry air.
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