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Tom Sizemore sentenced to six months in jail, three years probation for abuse
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Actor Tom Sizemore was sentenced Monday to six months in jail and three years probation for abusing his ex-girlfriend, former Hollywood madam Heidi Fleiss.
The actor first will go through drug rehabilitation. Judge Antonio Barreto Jr. said he would consider reducing the sentence to 90 days if Sizemore can show at a Jan. 30 hearing that his court-ordered counseling for drugs, anger and domestic violence are working.
Prosecutors had requested a 1-year sentence.
Sizemore, who appeared in "Black Hawk Down" and "Saving Private Ryan," apologized in a letter, saying "personal demons" had taken over his life. "I am very chastened by the trial and my convictions," he wrote.
The judge said that drug abuse may have been a catalyst in the abuse but that trial testimony revealed a man with deep problems dealing with women. Messages left on Fleiss' answering machine were so vicious "it's almost impossible to perceive," Barreto said.
He also ordered Sizemore to stay away from Fleiss.
Fleiss, contacted by phone Monday, called Sizemore "a zero." The two were together for about two years.
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Actor Tom Sizemore was sentenced Monday to six months in jail and three years probation for abusing his ex-girlfriend, former Hollywood madam Heidi Fleiss.
The actor first will go through drug rehabilitation. Judge Antonio Barreto Jr. said he would consider reducing the sentence to 90 days if Sizemore can show at a Jan. 30 hearing that his court-ordered counseling for drugs, anger and domestic violence are working.
Prosecutors had requested a 1-year sentence.
Sizemore, who appeared in "Black Hawk Down" and "Saving Private Ryan," apologized in a letter, saying "personal demons" had taken over his life. "I am very chastened by the trial and my convictions," he wrote.
The judge said that drug abuse may have been a catalyst in the abuse but that trial testimony revealed a man with deep problems dealing with women. Messages left on Fleiss' answering machine were so vicious "it's almost impossible to perceive," Barreto said.
He also ordered Sizemore to stay away from Fleiss.
Fleiss, contacted by phone Monday, called Sizemore "a zero." The two were together for about two years.
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There's never any excuse for a man to ever hit a woman...I've been slapped in the face by my sister (when she was a teenager), and never even thought about hitting her back. Why not?...Because I'm a gentleman and didn't want to hurt her.
In all honesty, six months in jail for assaulting his girlfriend and threatening her over the phone seems far too lenient to me.
In all honesty, six months in jail for assaulting his girlfriend and threatening her over the phone seems far too lenient to me.

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I agree....I have never raised my hand to woman though my wife sometimes make it tough! I'm KIDDING FOLKS! She'd beat my arse.
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ColdFront77 wrote:Males shouldn't get assaulted, physically, verbally or emotionally, either.
I agree....no marriage or relationship will ever be a happy one if either person involved abuses the other.
As for Becky hitting me a few times...that occurred when she was a teenager. After mom died, she really had it rough emotionally...she was severely traumatized from mom's sudden death and dad's abuse afterword. I honestly never worried about sis slapping me...she weighed 105 and me 230 when I was 18 and her 15. She couldn't ever hurt me; in fact, I'd really tick her off by taunting her ("come'on sissy, can't you hit harder than that"?) when she'd hit me


I guess most brothers and sisters/ siblings do fight sometimes when growing up; at least the ones I know. In our case, I was far too big and strong to ever hit Becky back. What she did to me was irritating....but I could have hurt her badly, and knew it. Don't worry....big brother always got his revenge (I knew she was extremely ticklish...and where



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Aside from my mom, no one (male or female) has ever hit me. I had a classmate threaten to punch me once so I stood in front of her, took my glasses off and put my hands to my side, as if to say, "Go ahead, you can't hurt me." But I guess my lack of fear convinced her that I wasn't the guilty one who had sprayed her with a squirt gun because she backed off.
Seriously, I think if I ever found myself in a relationship with someone who, just once, became abusive with me, I'd leave. But as a child, that's not easy to do. I can understand how women get caught up in abusive relationships with men who are controlling and possessive. If a woman feels that she can't leave or if she feels that she needs the man (money, love, both, whatever), she may not be able to leave. That's how it can be for a child who depends upon the parent for shelter, food, and love. I won't go into details (1) because I need to get ready for work, and 2) because I don't think I need to) but I'm not talking about just spanking for disciplinary purposes.

Seriously, I think if I ever found myself in a relationship with someone who, just once, became abusive with me, I'd leave. But as a child, that's not easy to do. I can understand how women get caught up in abusive relationships with men who are controlling and possessive. If a woman feels that she can't leave or if she feels that she needs the man (money, love, both, whatever), she may not be able to leave. That's how it can be for a child who depends upon the parent for shelter, food, and love. I won't go into details (1) because I need to get ready for work, and 2) because I don't think I need to) but I'm not talking about just spanking for disciplinary purposes.
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JetMaxx wrote: Don't worry....big brother always got his revenge (I knew she was extremely ticklish...and where![]()
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I don't understand your reasoning, because abuse is abuse. You state are a "gentleman" who doesn't ever hit women, yet you admit to tickling your own younger sister. You tortured her just the same as if you had slapped her in revenge. Like many men, you can't seem to comprehend that tickling a young woman is just as traumatic and abusive as beating them.
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summerwx wrote:JetMaxx wrote: Don't worry....big brother always got his revenge (I knew she was extremely ticklish...and where![]()
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I don't understand your reasoning, because abuse is abuse. You state are a "gentleman" who doesn't ever hit women, yet you admit to tickling your own younger sister. You tortured her just the same as if you had slapped her in revenge. Like many men, you can't seem to comprehend that tickling a young woman is just as traumatic and abusive as beating them.
Couldn't have said it better summerwx, either abusive or ???, ah never mind.
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Okay, on one side, we have getting tickled, which leads to lots of giggling, possible loss of bladder control, hyperventilation, and, if not stopped after being asked, leads to trauma.
On the other side, we have 1) getting slapped, punched, elbowed, or backhanded, which leaves bruises, 2) having hair pulled to the point of pulling the scalp away from the skull leaving large sore bumps, 3) getting thrown into a wall, getting thrown to the ground, getting kicked in the arms, back, legs, and stomach while on the ground, which all lead to bruising, 4) being choked, which leads to bruising, 5) being dunked underwater in the tub which leads to trauma and near-drowning, 6) having keys, books, dishes (with food), coffee, a chair, or canned food thrown at you, which leaves bruises, 8) having a knife held to your stomach while a parent screams, "I hate you so much, I wish you were dead. I could just kill you now!" 8) seeing the same parent hold a syringe of Demerol to her own chest, threatening to inject it into her heart, 9) being 12 years old and being kept awake all night (or awakened off and on all night long) by someone who won't go to bed and wants to tell you one minute how great you are and the next how hated you are, 10) being publicly yelled at and humiliated for one minor little slip or spill, and 11) being told constantly that you'll never amount to anything and you're stupid.
I'll take getting tickled over the other stuff, thank you very much.
On the other side, we have 1) getting slapped, punched, elbowed, or backhanded, which leaves bruises, 2) having hair pulled to the point of pulling the scalp away from the skull leaving large sore bumps, 3) getting thrown into a wall, getting thrown to the ground, getting kicked in the arms, back, legs, and stomach while on the ground, which all lead to bruising, 4) being choked, which leads to bruising, 5) being dunked underwater in the tub which leads to trauma and near-drowning, 6) having keys, books, dishes (with food), coffee, a chair, or canned food thrown at you, which leaves bruises, 8) having a knife held to your stomach while a parent screams, "I hate you so much, I wish you were dead. I could just kill you now!" 8) seeing the same parent hold a syringe of Demerol to her own chest, threatening to inject it into her heart, 9) being 12 years old and being kept awake all night (or awakened off and on all night long) by someone who won't go to bed and wants to tell you one minute how great you are and the next how hated you are, 10) being publicly yelled at and humiliated for one minor little slip or spill, and 11) being told constantly that you'll never amount to anything and you're stupid.
I'll take getting tickled over the other stuff, thank you very much.
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summerwx wrote:JetMaxx wrote: Don't worry....big brother always got his revenge (I knew she was extremely ticklish...and where![]()
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I don't understand your reasoning, because abuse is abuse. You state are a "gentleman" who doesn't ever hit women, yet you admit to tickling your own younger sister. You tortured her just the same as if you had slapped her in revenge. Like many men, you can't seem to comprehend that tickling a young woman is just as traumatic and abusive as beating them.
OKAY!! I have heard it all now. Tickling your brother or sister is NOT a form of abuse. If it is, then I guess I was abused and heaped abuse upon my brothers and sisters too. sheesh.

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summerwx wrote:I don't understand your reasoning, because abuse is abuse. You state are a "gentleman" who doesn't ever hit women, yet you admit to tickling your own younger sister. You tortured her just the same as if you had slapped her in revenge. Like many men, you can't seem to comprehend that tickling a young woman is just as traumatic and abusive as beating them.
summerwx, your post is ridiculous. To even attempt a comparism between spousal assault and battery with the teasing tickle of a bratty kid sister is assinine. This occurred when my sis and I were both teenagers....I don't tickle her now; and haven't since she was a college freshman; nor do I make it a habit of tickling ANYONE....not my family members or anyone else.
Can tickling be abusive? You betcha....if it's beyond reason and the person on the recieving end objects; but there's a tremendous difference between the quick tickle of a bratty younger sibling, and tying a wife/ girlfriend to a bed and tickling them senseless (which only a sadist would do).
Here's something to think about: when she was 18, my sister was briefly married to an abusive husband. During their three month marriage, he beat her...punched, kicked, and slapped her. He also once cut her arm badly with a broken piece of glass while enraged (sis lied and told me it was an accident. She kept it a secret for over 11 years because she didn't want me on death row for killing him).
Ask Becky what abuse really is and what is isn't. They divorced in 1984, and she's still afraid of the jerk....afraid he'll someday hurt her again

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JetMaxx wrote: I agree....no marriage or relationship will ever be a happy one if either person involved abuses the other.
As for Becky hitting me a few times...that occurred when she was a teenager. After mom died, she really had it rough emotionally...she was severely traumatized from mom's sudden death and dad's abuse afterword. I honestly never worried about sis slapping me...she weighed 105 and me 230 when I was 18 and her 15. She couldn't ever hurt me; in fact, I'd really tick her off by taunting her ("come'on sissy, can't you hit harder than that"?) when she'd hit me![]()
I guess most brothers and sisters/ siblings do fight sometimes when growing up; at least the ones I know. In our case, I was far too big and strong to ever hit Becky back. What she did to me was irritating....but I could have hurt her badly, and knew it. Don't worry....big brother always got his revenge (I knew she was extremely ticklish...and where![]()
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My sister and I got along very well- it's only in the last 5 years that we've had... issues. (She has to be first everything... first married, engaged... I'm sure she's going to plan it out so that she's the first to have kids. She doens't understand that I don't particularily care who's first...)
My husband and my sister-in-law... on the other hand are a perfect example of when sibling rivalry goes BAD. Very BAD. She clubbed him with a baseball bat when she was 8 and he was 12. He, raised in a very different enviroment (there was a nasty divorce in the middle of raising them), was raised never to even raise your ~voice~ to a girl... even his sister. He took the bat away and locked her in her room and waited for his mom to come home to control her. He went to live with his dad for a while after that.
She still verbally and mentally beats the ever living crud out of him every time she gets a chance... and he still takes it "like a man"... Well, untill I went head to head with her over her treating my husband like trash and got kicked out of the house last month. We havn't seen her much recently.

It's deffinelty NOT cool for anyone to beat up anyone else.... siblings, male, or female. Tickling can be an expression of affection if done appropriatly- I can't think of a time in my life where someone didn't stop once they realized it wasn't fun and giggles anymore. Chasing my little sister around the house wiggling my fingers and laughing evily would send her into peals of laughter while she ran away. I dind't even have to touch her to have her rolling on the floor. that's fun- that's play.
And man I'm feeling old since it's been years since I chased my sister around like that. I'll have to make it a point to do so at thanksgiving

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Couldn't have said it better summerwx, either abusive or ???, ah never mind.
Just what are you insinuating Intimidator?? That I'm a kinky pervert because I tickled my little sister as kids after she slapped or clawed me?
There's one hell of a difference between that and "real tickling perversion". If you don't believe me, go to any search engine and type in "tickling". You'll quickly find websites that will honestly turn your stomach (fetish sites that are so gross and sadistic they are beyond description :o :o
When I talk about tickling...I don't mean perverted abuse or torture. What I did to my kid sister was "getting even". Hey, I knew guys in high school who tickletortured their little sisters just for the hell of it; because they were big bullies and delighted in making them suffer. I never did that....not to Becky, or to anyone else.
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Opera Ghost you are exactly right....anything can become abusive if it's out of control.
After mom died, my dad would explode over nothing and knock me across the room...punched and kicked me, even slapped the glasses off my face on a couple of occasions. Over two decades later, that's not what hurt me the most....not by a longshot. The abuse from my dad I'll carry to my grave are his verbal assaults....taunting me, telling me crap like I "was no good", and "I wish you had never been born"; telling me it was my fault that mom died....just because I was alone with her when the aneurism ruptured in her brain -- that's why I have nightmares even today.
Witnessing dad physically abuse little sis was far more traumatic than anything he ever did to me. When she was 15, dad threw her into the bedroom wall so hard it busted the sheetrock...and fractured her wrist. Watching him verbally and physically abuse her....emotionally, I'll never get over that.

After mom died, my dad would explode over nothing and knock me across the room...punched and kicked me, even slapped the glasses off my face on a couple of occasions. Over two decades later, that's not what hurt me the most....not by a longshot. The abuse from my dad I'll carry to my grave are his verbal assaults....taunting me, telling me crap like I "was no good", and "I wish you had never been born"; telling me it was my fault that mom died....just because I was alone with her when the aneurism ruptured in her brain -- that's why I have nightmares even today.
Witnessing dad physically abuse little sis was far more traumatic than anything he ever did to me. When she was 15, dad threw her into the bedroom wall so hard it busted the sheetrock...and fractured her wrist. Watching him verbally and physically abuse her....emotionally, I'll never get over that.


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Opera Ghost.... I have one of those sisters. She tries to outdo you in everything. I tend to find myself doing things just to see what she will do. lol. My daughter and her daughter are the same age. Mine was born first and I named her after three generations (Mary Kate). She had hers one month later and complained that I "stole" her baby name. lol. She ended up naming her daughter "Katy" (too funny if you ask me). hehe
BTW Perry, you do not have to explain yourself to anybody. All of us that know you knew what you meant.
BTW Perry, you do not have to explain yourself to anybody. All of us that know you knew what you meant.
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