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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#1821 Postby Orlando » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:43 am

Thanks Aric!
Not what I wanted to hear, but preparing anyway.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#1822 Postby Highteeld » Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:51 am

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#1823 Postby Kat5 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:51 am

Fwiw the 06zNAM is coming in a bit East. This is good indication that the models are continuing the eastward trend.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#1824 Postby caneman » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:05 am

Kat5 wrote:Fwiw the 06zNAM is coming in a bit East. This is good indication that the models are continuing the eastward trend.


Dont think the NAM is a good indication of anything. Euro rides up the cost of Florida
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#1825 Postby Bocadude85 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:23 am

Kat5 wrote:Fwiw the 06zNAM is coming in a bit East. This is good indication that the models are continuing the eastward trend.


The NAM isn’t exactly a stellar tropical model... but for what it’s worth it is west of its 0z run and makes landfall in Florida.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#1826 Postby sponger » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:31 am

Bocadude85 wrote:
Kat5 wrote:Fwiw the 06zNAM is coming in a bit East. This is good indication that the models are continuing the eastward trend.


The NAM isn’t exactly a stellar tropical model... but for what it’s worth it is west of its 0z run and makes landfall in Florida.


Yep, rounds the high right into Vero.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#1827 Postby AdamFirst » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:11 am

06z ICON landfalls the storm in Northern Palm Beach County/Martin County. Shift west from the 0z suite.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#1828 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:25 am

What’s going on with the CMC ? It brings it all the way across the state into the gulf then back NE across the state... is it just faster or stronger ridge?
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#1829 Postby Hammy » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:28 am

I'm thinking given what's transpired tonight, the NAM's intensity output doesn't look all that crazy now--takes a Cat 3 up the coast just offshore.

eastcoastFL wrote:What’s going on with the CMC ? It brings it all the way across the state into the gulf then back NE across the state... is it just faster or stronger ridge?


It was also the last model to turn Dorian north (and this was only after it had already started north in the first place) so likely part of the corrections that were made to the model where it stopped spinning everything into a storm, also led to it overestimating ridge strength.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#1830 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:35 am

Hammy wrote:I'm thinking given what's transpired tonight, the NAM's intensity output doesn't look all that crazy now--takes a Cat 3 up the coast just offshore.

eastcoastFL wrote:What’s going on with the CMC ? It brings it all the way across the state into the gulf then back NE across the state... is it just faster or stronger ridge?


It was also the last model to turn Dorian north (and this was only after it had already started north in the first place) so likely part of the corrections that were made to the model where it stopped spinning everything into a storm, also led to it overestimating ridge strength.


The Dorian models cost me big bucks. Flew all the way to Denver from PBI to run from Dorian as we were forecast as a landfall point 4 days out. Seems like most models struggled with forecasting that stall over the Bahamas. Did any of them actually forecast it to just sit there for 2 days?
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#1831 Postby NDG » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:36 am

06z GFS so far through 24 hrs is coming in a little further south than previous runs with a slightly stronger ridging to the N & E.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#1832 Postby NDG » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:41 am

Pretty good shift to the west by the 06z GFS.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#1833 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:41 am

At 36 hrs gfs still has it at 995mb

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#1834 Postby kevin » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:42 am

No Florida landfall (yet) in this run, but further West & South than the GFS 00z run at 48 hrs.

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#1835 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:43 am

48 hours appears to be touching the space coast

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#1836 Postby NDG » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:43 am

This is probably the closest to the Treasure Coast run the GFS has had Isaias during the past couple of days.

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#1837 Postby toad strangler » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:48 am

6z GFS is a pretty significant shift W in relation to the FL coast. Just offshore of Vero Beach.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#1838 Postby lando » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:56 am

eastcoastFL wrote:48 hours appears to be touching the space coast

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2020073106/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_us_8.png


This is the treasure coast, space coast is north of there :P
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#1839 Postby artist » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:57 am

I keep having visions of Frances and Jeanne with that close approach by a couple of the models now.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#1840 Postby NDG » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:58 am

0z Euro Ensembles.

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