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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3181 Postby NDG » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:36 pm

Shear has been dropping on it all day long.

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3182 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:36 pm

Airboy wrote:Two recon in the air and on it's way, Miss Piggy + AF plane.


Yeah it's going to be very interesting having both planes doing low level recon at the same time. I'm gonna be F5ing all evening lol.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3183 Postby jlauderdal » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:37 pm

SFLcane wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:Its time to get real about this system. I have asked Eric Blake if his shutters are up or going up?. Will advise when I know more.


We'll we are possibly 30 min away from a hurricane warning. :D

I agree and quite frankly its NDG in Orlando's fault..NDG called for hurricane warnings and watches on the Florida east coast and I was skeptical thinking this thing was going to Freeport and then continue its trek N and NE, this exchange took place before sunrise today and here we are..of course NDG then at 11 circles back and hits me again and takes a victory lap but I have a long memory and going to be watching every post NDG makes looking to back control :D

Craig Setzer from CBS Miami just posted, notice how he doesnt say hurricane, will see how that pans out tomorrow.


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With the shift in the more skilled models west today, expect the 5PM NHC advisory forecast track to shift much closer to South Florida. Preps for tropical storm conditions should be wrapped up by very early tomorrow as weather deteriorates during the day
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3184 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:41 pm

ava_ati wrote:Just saw on the weather channel there is forced evacuations in North Carolina... that seems really premature
It's only Ocracoke Island. Only way on or off of the Island is by Ferry so it takes a little longer to get everyone out. Can't wait until last minute.

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3185 Postby NDG » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:43 pm

Not a bad looking outflow channel setting up.

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3186 Postby pgoss11 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:44 pm

NDG wrote:Not a bad looking outflow channel setting up.

https://i.imgur.com/4Dpry0u.gif

It looks so small. Will it grow in size if it intensifies?
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3187 Postby chaser1 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:45 pm

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FLpanhandle91 wrote:NOAA #8 sampling the upper air, particular the ridge, as we speak.


Glad to hear that, finally!


Thank heaven. Would have thought that flight could have happened a day or two ago
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3188 Postby jlauderdal » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:46 pm

SFLcane wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:Its time to get real about this system. I have asked Eric Blake if his shutters are up or going up?. Will advise when I know more.


We'll we are possibly 30 min away from a hurricane warning. :D
Eric Blakes response to my shutter question:

"I’ve charged the drill and am thinking about it. It is a close one"
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3189 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:49 pm

Hurricane Isaias Advisory Number 15
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092020
500 PM EDT Fri Jul 31 2020

...HURRICANE WARNING ISSUED FOR PORTIONS OF THE FLORIDA EAST
COAST...
...TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS AND HEAVY RAINS CONTINUE TO SPREAD
ACROSS THE CENTRAL BAHAMAS...


SUMMARY OF 500 PM EDT...2100 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...22.6N 75.7W
ABOUT 195 MI...320 KM SSE OF NASSAU
ABOUT 330 MI...535 KM SE OF FREEPORT GRAND BAHAMA ISLAND
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...75 MPH...120 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 305 DEGREES AT 15 MPH...24 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...991 MB...29.27 INCHES
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3190 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:50 pm

That is one tiny little hurricane
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3191 Postby Evil Jeremy » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:50 pm

A Hurricane Warning is in effect for the east coast of Florida from
Boca Raton to the Volusia/Brevard County Line.

A Hurricane Watch is in effect from the Volusia/Brevard County Line
to the Flagler/Volusia County Line and from south of Boca Raton to
Hallendale Beach.

A Storm Surge Watch is in effect for the east coast of Florida from
Jupiter Inlet to Ponte Vedre Beach.

A Tropical Storm Watch is in effect from the Flagler/Volusia County
Line to Ponte Vedre Beach.

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for Lake Okeechobee.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3192 Postby DestinHurricane » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:50 pm

A Hurricane Warning is in effect for the east coast of Florida from
Boca Raton to the Volusia/Brevard County Line.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3193 Postby caneseddy » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:50 pm

A Hurricane Warning is in effect for the east coast of Florida from
Boca Raton to the Volusia/Brevard County Line.

A Hurricane Watch is in effect from the Volusia/Brevard County Line
to the Flagler/Volusia County Line and from south of Boca Raton to
Hallendale Beach.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3194 Postby floridasun78 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:51 pm

no hurr watch for south fl in dade
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3195 Postby NDG » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:51 pm

New track pretty much on the coast, maybe 5 miles offshore parallel to it from the Treasure Coast to Cape Canaveral.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3196 Postby CronkPSU » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:55 pm

fairly conservative discussion coming from Stewart

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WTNT44 KNHC 312050
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Hurricane Isaias Discussion Number 15
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092020
500 PM EDT Fri Jul 31 2020

Deep convection, with occasional overshooting cloud tops of -85C to
-90C just north of the center, has continued to develop during the
normal diurnal convective minimum period, which is quite impressive.
The most recent Air Force Reserve recon flight-level wind data,
along with ASCAT surface wind data, indicate that the inner-core and
outer wind field have both contracted in size. Furthermore, radar
data from the Bahamas and an 1810Z AMSR-2 microwave pass also
indicate that a small 10-nmi-wide mid-level eye is forming. The last
recon central pressure was 991 mb and the 700 mb height had
decreased by 30 meters since the earlier maximum height around
1230Z. These data indicate that Isaias is getting better organized.
The initial intensity remains 65 kt based on an earlier 700-mb
flight-level wind speed of 72 kt, which reduces to a 65-kt surface
wind speed using a 90-percent adjustment factor.

The initial motion remains northwestward or 305/12 kt. The 12Z
global models have once again made a westward shift due to the ridge
to the north of Isaias not weakening as quickly as expected. This is
partly due to the ridge being stronger than expected and a shortwave
trough over the central United States moving a little slower into
the southeastern U.S. than previously indicated. The UKMET and ECMWF
explicitly show Isaias making landfall in 36-48 hours along the
southeast Florida coast, but appear to weaken the system below
hurricane strength. The GFS similarly brings the cyclone close to
the southeast and east-central Florida coasts, but also as a
somewhat weaker system. In the 48 to 60-hour period, the cyclone is
forecast to move slowly north-northwestward and northward through a
break in the subtropical ridge extending westward from the Atlantic
across Florida and into the northern Gulf of Mexico. By that time,
however, Isaias is expected to weaken below hurricane strength due
to the combination of strong southwesterly vertical wind shear and
interaction the Florida peninsula. Around 72 hours, the cyclone
should accelerate northeastward and possibly strengthen some before
passing over eastern North Carolina on day 4, and across eastern New
England on day 5. The NHC track forecast lies close to a blend of
the consensus models TVCA and NOAA-HCCA and is east of the UKMET
and ECMWF with the system forecast to be stronger than those
models indicate. Due to the westward shift in the NHC forecast
track, a Hurricane Warning and Storm Surge Watch have been issued
for portions of the Florida east coast.

The center of Isaias is now located in the center of an expanding
CDO feature. The improved inner-core wind field and aforementioned
convective structure, along with very warm SSTs near 30C, should
support some strengthening overnight and early Saturday morning.
However, increasing southwesterly vertical wind shear is expected to
cause a gradual decrease in intensity by Sunday and continue into
early next week. The new official intensity forecast is a little
lower than the previous advisory and is near the higher end of the
intensity guidance.

Key Messages:

1. Hurricane conditions and dangerous storm surge are expected in
portions of the Bahamas through Saturday, and Hurricane Warnings
are in effect.

2. Hurricane conditions are expected along portions of the Florida
east coast late Saturday and Saturday night, and a Hurricane Warning
has been issued. Preparations to protect life and property should be
rushed to completion.

3. Dangerous storm surge is possible along the Florida east coast
from Jupiter Inlet to Ponte Vedra Beach where water rises of 2 to 4
feet above ground level are possible along the immediate coastline
and adjacent waterways. Residents in these areas should follow
advice given by local emergency officials.

4. Isaias will produce heavy rains and potentially life-threatening
flash and urban flooding, especially in low-lying and poorly drained
areas across south to east-central Florida, and across the Carolinas
to the mid Atlantic. Isolated minor river flooding is possible
across the eastern Carolinas and into Virginia early next week.

5. There is a risk of impacts from winds, heavy rainfall, and storm
surge spreading along much of the the U.S. east coast through early
next week, and interests there should monitor the progress of Isaias
and updates to the forecast.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 31/2100Z 22.6N 75.7W 65 KT 75 MPH
12H 01/0600Z 23.9N 77.2W 70 KT 80 MPH
24H 01/1800Z 25.4N 78.8W 75 KT 85 MPH
36H 02/0600Z 26.8N 79.9W 70 KT 80 MPH
48H 02/1800Z 28.3N 80.4W 65 KT 75 MPH
60H 03/0600Z 30.0N 80.4W 60 KT 70 MPH
72H 03/1800Z 32.5N 79.4W 60 KT 70 MPH
96H 04/1800Z 39.0N 74.5W 55 KT 65 MPH
120H 05/1800Z 45.4N 65.9W 50 KT 60 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3197 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:55 pm

And we’re under a hurricane warning now on treasure coast
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3198 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:57 pm

This thing has been consistently firing < -70°C towers right over the center for over 3 hours now. Would not shock me if recon finds a 75kr or 80kt storm when they get there.
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3199 Postby NC George » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:02 pm

HurricaneEnzo wrote:
ava_ati wrote:Just saw on the weather channel there is forced evacuations in North Carolina... that seems really premature
It's only Ocracoke Island. Only way on or off of the Island is by Ferry so it takes a little longer to get everyone out. Can't wait until last minute.

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3200 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:04 pm

Interesting that Hurricane watches haven’t extended further south.
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