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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3541 Postby aspen » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:38 pm

NDG wrote:Radar is back up again, Eyewall opened up again, might be the reason it has been taking a more WNW heading the last few hours.

https://i.imgur.com/wb4ukZu.gif

That opened up quick. However, I don’t think it’ll be open for long, because convection is still firing and rotating around the center. It could try to rebuild that part of the eyewall.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3542 Postby blp » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:38 pm

NDG wrote:Actually, that was almost a due west jog, WNW over all during the past few hours.

https://i.imgur.com/0I7C1e8.png


These wobbles are really important right now. It has to make a hard adjustment very soon to keep the track. Let's see what happens.
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3543 Postby caneseddy » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:39 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
caneseddy wrote:
NDG wrote:Actually, that was almost a due west jog, WNW over all during the past few hours.

https://i.imgur.com/0I7C1e8.png


Even that small west jog, even if overall it is moving WNW, is critical in the long term as it makes it possible for Isaias to pass over the south part of Andros rather than over the island which brings it closer to coast before the turn.

You know it's getting real when we are wobble watching LOL

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I would rather argue over wobbles than the NAM


So true. The story of 2020; wobble watching an MDR storm approaching Florida in end of July, beginning of August. Ok, time to stop cluttering the board
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3544 Postby cjrciadt » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:40 pm

blp wrote:
NDG wrote:Actually, that was almost a due west jog, WNW over all during the past few hours.

https://i.imgur.com/0I7C1e8.png


These wobbles are really important right now. It had to make a hard adjustment very soon to keep the track. Let's see what happens.


I was waiting until the morning to start Wooble Watchin' Mode. Though tonight's moves can determine a lot, unless it slow downs early.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3545 Postby toad strangler » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:44 pm

cjrciadt wrote:
blp wrote:
NDG wrote:Actually, that was almost a due west jog, WNW over all during the past few hours.

https://i.imgur.com/0I7C1e8.png


These wobbles are really important right now. It had to make a hard adjustment very soon to keep the track. Let's see what happens.


I was waiting until the morning to start Wooble Watchin' Mode. Though tonight's moves can determine a lot, unless it slow downs early.


When you are talking about this kind of angle towards the FL peninsula every wobble matters. Period. One wobble is what saved the Treasure Coast from Matthew.
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3546 Postby ozonepete » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:44 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
CronkPSU wrote:
NDG wrote:Wow, I missed that the AF recon found 90 knot flight level winds while arguing in the model thread, lol. and that it has been taking a nice jog to the WNW.


yeah, probably need some mods over there and bring those conversations over here....
20 posts about the NAM...there were 2 planes in there, we have radar and sat yet its a tussle over the NAM and 5 miles to the east, lol


Please please don't bring any model posts over here, lol.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3547 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:44 pm

toad strangler wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:People... Eyewalls open a close all the time during this phase of a hurricane..


Yeah but this is happening due to all of that mid level westerly shear AND dry air.

if conditions were perfect, it'd turn into a beast.

the stuff you listed helps keep it in check, which is why "only" a cat 1 is foretasted.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3548 Postby toad strangler » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:45 pm

AxaltaRacing24 wrote:
toad strangler wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:People... Eyewalls open a close all the time during this phase of a hurricane..


Yeah but this is happening due to all of that mid level westerly shear AND dry air.

if conditions were perfect, it'd turn into a beast.

the stuff you listed helps keep it in check, which is why "only" a cat 1 is foretasted.


Agreed, and a big part of why it's going to get at least very close to the FL peninsula.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3549 Postby caneseddy » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:46 pm

11 pm snippet:

80 mph
NW 15mph
987 mb

Only change in watches and warnings:

The Hurricane Watch is changed to a Hurricane Warning from the
Volusia-Brevard County line to the Flagler/Volusia County Line


The
official track forecast is close to the previous one and also very
close to the latest dynamical model consensus.
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3550 Postby NDG » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:47 pm

toad strangler wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
CronkPSU wrote:
yeah, probably need some mods over there and bring those conversations over here....
20 posts about the NAM...there were 2 planes in there, we have radar and sat yet its a tussle over the NAM and 5 miles to the east, lol


It's a model isn't it? It's not a top six tropical go to but IT IS a near term tool.


Keep that crap over there please, don't bring it here :D
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3551 Postby toad strangler » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:48 pm

NDG wrote:
toad strangler wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:20 posts about the NAM...there were 2 planes in there, we have radar and sat yet its a tussle over the NAM and 5 miles to the east, lol


It's a model isn't it? It's not a top six tropical go to but IT IS a near term tool.


Keep that crap over there please, don't bring it here :D


You're asking the wrong dude
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3552 Postby gatorcane » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:50 pm

Pasch a man of few words. How about talking about the Euro vs the GFS which mean big differences for SE Florida? :D

11pm EST discussion out.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3553 Postby caneseddy » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:51 pm

[img]https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT09/refresh/AL092020_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind+png/215355_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind.png/img]
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3554 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:51 pm

Kinda annoyed that the models thread has become yet another discussion thread about one run becoming a trend.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3555 Postby rigbyrigz » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:52 pm

gatorcane wrote:Pasch a man of few words. How about talking about the Euro vs the GFS which mean big differences for SE Florida? :D

11pm EST discussion out.


Yeah his Discussion seemed sort of anti-CLIMATIC, if you know what I mean. From commentary here I expected fireworks and hula gals at 11PM.
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3556 Postby jlauderdal » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:52 pm

ozonepete wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
CronkPSU wrote:
yeah, probably need some mods over there and bring those conversations over here....
20 posts about the NAM...there were 2 planes in there, we have radar and sat yet its a tussle over the NAM and 5 miles to the east, lol


Please please don't bring any model posts over here, lol.
Lets have a navy nogaps discussion while we await the next disco
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3557 Postby toad strangler » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:52 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:Kinda annoyed that the models thread has become yet another discussion thread about one run becoming a trend.


I know this is gonna go poof and it should but there are a TON of weenies here :wink:
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3558 Postby Evil Jeremy » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:55 pm

Advisory feels like a punt.

NHC placed Isaias at 23.3N, but recon just pegged him at 23N. Not a small difference at this point in time.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3559 Postby NDG » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:55 pm

gatorcane wrote:Pasch a man of few words. How about talking about the Euro vs the GFS which mean big differences for SE Florida? :D

11pm EST discussion out.


11 PM EDST discussions have been the most boring for the last few days, telling us is time to go to bed for some of us, tomorrow is a long day 8-)
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3560 Postby Evil Jeremy » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:57 pm

NDG wrote:11 PM EDST discussions have been the most boring for the last few days, telling us is time to go to bed for some of us, tomorrow is a long day 8-)


Tomorrow begins in an hour. And it's going to be very very long.
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