ATL: ISAIAS - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3701 Postby boca » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:52 am

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/d ... oom=&time=

When you look at this map it appears that the storm would move NNW according to that map,but I saw the west wobble.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3702 Postby toad strangler » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:52 am

wxman57 wrote:Isaias is about as disorganized a hurricane as I've seen in a while. Hurricane winds only in a small area NE of the center. Center on the western edge of convection. Max wind west of storm only about 60 mph 35-40 miles NW of center. TS winds extend only 40-60 miles west of the center. Terrible satellite presentation. Shear quite evident.


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Doesn't look like a hurricane at all. On presentation itself it looks like a depression at best. Dry air and shear knocking the teeth out of Isaias.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3703 Postby lhpfish » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:55 am

A few showers coming on shore south Florida now. Is it possible the environment moistens up?
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3704 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:55 am

wxman57 wrote:Isaias is about as disorganized a hurricane as I've seen in a while. Hurricane winds only in a small area NE of the center. Center on the western edge of convection. Max wind west of storm only about 60 mph 35-40 miles NW of center. TS winds extend only 40-60 miles west of the center. Terrible satellite presentation. Shear quite evident.


And to make it worst the dry air being entrained into it causing all that cooling downdrafts on the NW quadrant.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3705 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:55 am

Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC)
Transmitted: 1st day of the month at 11:40Z

Aircraft: Lockheed WC-130J Hercules with reg. number AF97-5306

A. Time of Center Fix: 1st day of the month at 11:25:50Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 24.21N 77.39W

F. Eye Character: Open in the southwest
G. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 20 nautical miles (23 statute miles)

P. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 8°C (46°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,051m (10,010ft)
Q. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 19°C (66°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,054m (10,020ft)
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3706 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:57 am

GCANE wrote:Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC)
Transmitted: 1st day of the month at 11:40Z

Aircraft: Lockheed WC-130J Hercules with reg. number AF97-5306

A. Time of Center Fix: 1st day of the month at 11:25:50Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 24.21N 77.39W

F. Eye Character: Open in the southwest
G. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 20 nautical miles (23 statute miles)

P. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 8°C (46°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,051m (10,010ft)
Q. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 19°C (66°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,054m (10,020ft)



Forgot this:

D. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 993mb (29.33 inHg)


Miss Piggy on approach.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3707 Postby chris_fit » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:58 am

Good Morning All. Woke, saw the storm, ewww, horrible satellite presentation. Stay safe ya'll
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3708 Postby MarioProtVI » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:59 am

GCANE wrote:
GCANE wrote:Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC)
Transmitted: 1st day of the month at 11:40Z

Aircraft: Lockheed WC-130J Hercules with reg. number AF97-5306

A. Time of Center Fix: 1st day of the month at 11:25:50Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 24.21N 77.39W

F. Eye Character: Open in the southwest
G. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 20 nautical miles (23 statute miles)

P. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 8°C (46°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,051m (10,010ft)
Q. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 19°C (66°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,054m (10,020ft)



Forgot this:

D. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 993mb (29.33 inHg)


Miss Piggy on approach.

The lowest was 985.1. Not sure why they went almost 10 mb higher.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3709 Postby Highteeld » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:00 am

978 extrap (this censor has been generous last few days)
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3710 Postby drezee » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:00 am

toad strangler wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Isaias is about as disorganized a hurricane as I've seen in a while. Hurricane winds only in a small area NE of the center. Center on the western edge of convection. Max wind west of storm only about 60 mph 35-40 miles NW of center. TS winds extend only 40-60 miles west of the center. Terrible satellite presentation. Shear quite evident.


truth

Doesn't look like a hurricane at all. On presentation itself it looks like a depression at best. Dry air and shear knocking the teeth out of Isaias.


Are you all kidding? Hurricane Earl anyone....basically an exposed LLC being eaten my an upper low in the GOM
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3711 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:00 am

GCANE wrote:
GCANE wrote:Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC)
Transmitted: 1st day of the month at 11:40Z

Aircraft: Lockheed WC-130J Hercules with reg. number AF97-5306

A. Time of Center Fix: 1st day of the month at 11:25:50Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 24.21N 77.39W

F. Eye Character: Open in the southwest
G. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 20 nautical miles (23 statute miles)

P. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 8°C (46°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,051m (10,010ft)
Q. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 19°C (66°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,054m (10,020ft)



Forgot this:

D. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 993mb (29.33 inHg)


Miss Piggy on approach.


Miss Piggy:

973 mb.
Some one has a bad calibration.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3712 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:03 am

2 dropsondes were dropped in eye by AF recon, one showed 991mb and the other one 987mb, but the VDM shows 993mb.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3713 Postby Ian2401 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:03 am

getting very close to landfall in Andros
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3714 Postby Chemmers » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:06 am

Is the 978 mb true?
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3715 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:07 am

I don't see any weather stations on Andros.
Anyone else see one?
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3716 Postby Highteeld » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:08 am

Chemmers wrote:Is the 978 mb true?

highly unlikely to be accurate
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3717 Postby lhpfish » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:09 am

Looks like it’s going right over the middle of Andros
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3718 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:09 am

Chemmers wrote:Is the 978 mb true?


Obviously a calibration error in the instruments somewhere.
Would be good if a surface ob would verify.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3719 Postby SFLcane » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:10 am

chris_fit wrote:Good Morning All. Woke, saw the storm, ewww, horrible satellite presentation. Stay safe ya'll


Ah.. going back to sleep. I will enjoy my breezy rain day conditions.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#3720 Postby StormingB81 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:13 am

I’m here in coastal Brevard ready to chase from my backyard lol don’t mind my post because if you’re nervous mine will make you freak out lol...bring on a hurricane it would be the most normal thing to happen in 2020 lol
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