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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4501 Postby psyclone » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:05 pm

intermittent convection in the face of persistent sheer is a recipe for underperformance
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4502 Postby DestinHurricane » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:09 pm

Getting our strongest gusts yet in Boca.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4503 Postby drewschmaltz » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:10 pm

DestinHurricane wrote:


Hey GCANE. Where is that anticyclone you were talking about earlier? Is the shear going to let up?


The sheer and the anticyclone are kind of one in the same.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4504 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:12 pm

Shear is blowing the convection off of the center again. You would think that shear was much greater than 20 knots or so. Jeez haha. Haircut soon, again? You can see the blow up moving NE while the center is still in the same spot, kind of cool looking.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4505 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:12 pm

DestinHurricane wrote:


Hey GCANE. Where is that anticyclone you were talking about earlier? Is the shear going to let up?


Close, real close

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4506 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:12 pm

Hasn’t rained, haven’t heard wind and I’m in Coconut Creek right off the turnpike.


Then again I’m inside so.. :cheesy:
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4507 Postby DestinHurricane » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:13 pm

GCANE wrote:
DestinHurricane wrote:


Hey GCANE. Where is that anticyclone you were talking about earlier? Is the shear going to let up?


Close, real close

https://i.imgur.com/zO7hYKn.png


So shear should let up soon?
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4508 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:14 pm

rigbyrigz wrote:
Jr0d wrote:Looks like the pulse of convection is starting to wane and get sheared to the east. The core might be able to contain some storms though. Very tough to find the center. This is not going to be a hurricane again tonight. That said, if the shear relaxes a little we know how quickly it can blow up.


The 250MB shear is supposed to move off after daybreak. Give the guy some open warm water then and get your popcorn ready.


He will be over land by the time the shear lets up, or at least very close to land. This is kind of a perfect situation for the least amount of impacts in the US from a land-falling cyclone. Shear keeps it weak until it skirts to close to the coast to get going.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4509 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:15 pm

DestinHurricane wrote:
GCANE wrote:
DestinHurricane wrote:
Hey GCANE. Where is that anticyclone you were talking about earlier? Is the shear going to let up?


Close, real close

https://i.imgur.com/zO7hYKn.png


So shear should let up soon?


As long as the deep convection keeps firing.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4510 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:15 pm

DestinHurricane wrote:So many here think that the NHC intensity forecast will bust. I'm not so sure. Right now I'm not going to go against NHC but I wouldn't be surprised if it never became a hurricane again.


Levi Cowan alluded that Isaias probably has a better time strengthening once it's away from Florida and might become a hurricane again before it landfalls on the Carolinas. So if it doesn't yet the window to do it is still there later.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4511 Postby umguy1 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:18 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:Hasn’t rained, haven’t heard wind and I’m in Coconut Creek right off the turnpike.


Then again I’m inside so.. :cheesy:


I'm in Wilton Manors and it just started pouringn. The wind has really picked up too.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4512 Postby drewschmaltz » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:19 pm

psyclone wrote:intermittent convection in the face of persistent sheer is a recipe for underperformance


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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4513 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:19 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:Hasn’t rained, haven’t heard wind and I’m in Coconut Creek right off the turnpike.


Then again I’m inside so.. :cheesy:


Been really gusting near the beach here in Boca. This setup may be an example where inland South Florida just a few miles or more inland sees far less winds than right along the coast. Had the storm landfalled and moved inland, different story for your locale.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4514 Postby supercane4867 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:21 pm

Current intensity appears to be 50kts at best based on recon.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4515 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:25 pm

Seeing how the radial fingers are spinning clockwise, the anticyclone is on top of the deep convection or slightly north.
If the LLC tracks into the anticyclone, the vort column will quickly stack.

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4516 Postby Jr0d » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:26 pm

rigbyrigz wrote:
Jr0d wrote:Looks like the pulse of convection is starting to wane and get sheared to the east. The core might be able to contain some storms though. Very tough to find the center. This is not going to be a hurricane again tonight. That said, if the shear relaxes a little we know how quickly it can blow up.


The 250MB shear is supposed to move off after daybreak. Give the guy some open warm water then and get your popcorn ready.


Plus this pulse(and possibly later ones) or helping to moisten up the atmosphere.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4517 Postby Sal Collaziano » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:29 pm

supercane4867 wrote:Naked swirl alert...again

https://i.imgur.com/6AdFOjP.gif


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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4518 Postby gfsperpendicular » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:36 pm

Unfortunately the model runs that nailed that first blowup also depict this pulse down and another blow up. Steve has some detailed posts about it in the models thread I believe.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4519 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:39 pm

Getting more definitive circulation.
These mesovorts keep popping up.
The ramp up in outflow will help gel this.
I would guess the anticyclone is slightly north.

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4520 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:41 pm

Tons of lightning in this thing
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