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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4661 Postby drezee » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:17 am

GCANE wrote:
skillz305 wrote:
drezee wrote:Extrapolated Sea-level Pressure is way off. Everyone take a breath...drops only until calibrated



In an amateur hurricane tracking language for us please? :D :lol: i try to understand all the meanings etc


Miss Piggy is showing very erratic surface pressure readings.
The only reliable reading will be from a dropsonde when they release it in the core.

Exactly, they will have one shortly.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4662 Postby GCANE » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:17 am

GCANE wrote:
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drezee wrote:Extrapolated Sea-level Pressure is way off. Everyone take a breath...drops only until callobratted



In an amateur hurricane tracking language for us please? :D :lol: i try to understand all the meanings etc


Miss Piggy is showing very erratic surface pressure readings.
The only reliable reading will be from a dropsonde when they release it in the core.


Weird. I refresh the data and it looks better.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4663 Postby GCANE » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:19 am

Drop
1005mb

Coordinates: 26.3N 78.6W
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4664 Postby skillz305 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:19 am

GCANE wrote:
GCANE wrote:
skillz305 wrote:

In an amateur hurricane tracking language for us please? :D :lol: i try to understand all the meanings etc


Miss Piggy is showing very erratic surface pressure readings.
The only reliable reading will be from a dropsonde when they release it in the core.


Weird. I refresh the data and it looks better.



Thanks bud. I'm here in Vero Beach, FL. Have a feeling this makes a landfall in Ft. Pierce (St. Lucie County).
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4665 Postby StormingB81 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:20 am

To the untrained eye it looks like it’s moving away from the Florida coast. Could just and most likely probably be me lol
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4667 Postby NDG » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:21 am

12z Sounding out of Miami, continuing very dry westerly winds between H40-H20 punching Isaias, will be a matter of time before the convection collapses again later this morning.

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4668 Postby GCANE » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:29 am



P3 may not have enough power to fight a downdraft.
C130 would be better to run the tower.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4669 Postby GCANE » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:30 am

GCANE wrote:


P3 may not have enough power to fight a downdraft.
C130 would be better to run the tower.


BTW that drop didn't look like the CoC. Was about 35 knot surface winds.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4670 Postby SouthernBreeze » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:32 am

wxman57 wrote:Wind shear and dry mid-level air is not the friend of a hurricane, particularly a small one. Might see some brief 35-40 mph winds on the FL coast today. Little, if any rain. Heavy squalls will remain east of the track. I think Isaias will strengthen after passing east of Jacksonville when it starts moving WITH the upper wind. Could yet regain hurricane strength prior to landfall near the SC/NC border. That's where conditions have always looked the most favorable - NOT in the Bahamas.


Oh Geez Wxman, you really think there may be possibility of Cat 1 by time it gets up her to SC/NC line area? I really need to get preps in gear hearing that!
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4671 Postby GCANE » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:32 am

AF305 in the air
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4672 Postby Steve » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:40 am

SouthernBreeze wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Wind shear and dry mid-level air is not the friend of a hurricane, particularly a small one. Might see some brief 35-40 mph winds on the FL coast today. Little, if any rain. Heavy squalls will remain east of the track. I think Isaias will strengthen after passing east of Jacksonville when it starts moving WITH the upper wind. Could yet regain hurricane strength prior to landfall near the SC/NC border. That's where conditions have always looked the most favorable - NOT in the Bahamas.


Oh Geez Wxman, you really think there may be possibility of Cat 1 by time it gets up her to SC/NC line area? I really need to get preps in gear hearing that!


It'll probably be close - maybe 55-65 and you'd think 30-45 up the seaboard. You guys probably get a couple inches of rain if it's moving faster then. Looks like a nice run to push back a little against the westerly shear. I haven't looked at any modeling yet, but if there's anything to note, I'll post it in the Models thread.

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4673 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:40 am

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4674 Postby GCANE » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:41 am

Looks like Miss Piggy is headed home.
Likely instrument issues.
I am not counting that drop.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4675 Postby Jr0d » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:41 am

GCANE wrote:


P3 may not have enough power to fight a downdraft.
C130 would be better to run the tower.


P3 and C130s have the same engines, they are just flipped 180° on the P3. Obviously the C130 has a stronger airframe.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4676 Postby GCANE » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:42 am



Should read west of Grand Bahama
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4677 Postby GCANE » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:43 am

Jr0d wrote:
GCANE wrote:


P3 may not have enough power to fight a downdraft.
C130 would be better to run the tower.


P3 and C130s have the same engines, they are just flipped 180° on the P3. Obviously the C130 has a stronger airframe.


Do they both have variable pitched props?
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4678 Postby Jr0d » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:50 am

GCANE wrote:
Jr0d wrote:
GCANE wrote:
P3 may not have enough power to fight a downdraft.
C130 would be better to run the tower.


P3 and C130s have the same engines, they are just flipped 180° on the P3. Obviously the C130 has a stronger airframe.

Do they both have variable pitched props?


Yep. WC-130s have 6 blades, the WP-3 has the standard 4.


Edit for correction...
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4679 Postby GCANE » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:54 am

Jr0d wrote:
GCANE wrote:
Jr0d wrote:
P3 and C130s have the same engines, they are just flipped 180° on the P3. Obviously the C130 has a stronger airframe.

Do they both have variable pitched props?


Yep. .WC-130s have 6 blades, the. WP-3 has the standard 4.


Edit for correction...


But, can they change the angle of the blades on command.
The sharper the angle, the more thrust.
P3's are designed for cruising.
C130's are heavy lifters. More lift at lower airspeeds and increased thrust for short runways.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4680 Postby Jr0d » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:58 am

GCANE wrote:
Jr0d wrote:
GCANE wrote:Do they both have variable pitched props?


Yep. .WC-130s have 6 blades, the. WP-3 has the standard 4.


Edit for correction...


But, can they change the angle of the blades on command.
The sharper the angle, the more thrust.
P3's are designed for cruising.
C130's are heavy lifters. More lift at lower airspeeds and increased thrust for short runways.


The both change the angle of the blades and keep the RPMs constant. Both the Navy E-2 Hawkeye and C-2 COD have the same engines too.
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