2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

This is the general tropical discussion area. Anyone can take their shot at predicting a storms path.

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Forum rules

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K. For official information, please refer to products from the National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service.

Help Support Storm2K
Message
Author
User avatar
aspen
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 8818
Joined: Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:10 pm
Location: Connecticut, USA

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1001 Postby aspen » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:36 pm


That system forms in about a week on that run, so the wave should be emerging off of Africa in a few days. Gotta keep a really close eye on it now and see if any other models jump on board.
3 likes   
Irene '11 Sandy '12 Hermine '16 5/15/2018 Derecho Fay '20 Isaias '20 Elsa '21 Henri '21 Ida '21

I am only a meteorology enthusiast who knows a decent amount about tropical cyclones. Look to the professional mets, the NHC, or your local weather office for the best information.

User avatar
cainjamin
Tropical Storm
Tropical Storm
Posts: 168
Age: 34
Joined: Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:38 pm
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1002 Postby cainjamin » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:24 pm



If this storm actually forms, it will really be the first Caribbean cruiser we've seen since Dean and Felix 13 years ago. We've seen a few strong hurricane in the Caribbean since then (namely Sandy and Matthew) but really nothing strong that's tracked from the MDR to Central America. Obviously we'll have to watch for consistency and for other models to jump onboard, but in a sense we are kind of "due" for a storm like that.
1 likes   
Noel '07, Kyle '08, Earl '10, Arthur '14, Dorian '19, Teddy '20, Lee '23

User avatar
gatorcane
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 23691
Age: 47
Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:54 pm
Location: Boca Raton, FL

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1003 Postby gatorcane » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:03 pm

GFS with possibly another system behind this one, looks to recurve it in the wake of Isiais with a displaced to the east Bermuda High due to a strong CONUS trough. Plenty of time to watch though.

Image
0 likes   

User avatar
aspen
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 8818
Joined: Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:10 pm
Location: Connecticut, USA

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1004 Postby aspen » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:08 pm

gatorcane wrote:GFS with possibly another system behind this one, looks to recurve it in the wake of Isiais with a displaced to the east Bermuda High due to a strong CONUS trough. Plenty of time to watch though.

https://i.postimg.cc/zvHykhFC/gfs-z850-vort-watl-17.png

I believe it’s also shown up in the latest ECMWF and ICON runs, albeit very weak and almost nonexistent.
0 likes   
Irene '11 Sandy '12 Hermine '16 5/15/2018 Derecho Fay '20 Isaias '20 Elsa '21 Henri '21 Ida '21

I am only a meteorology enthusiast who knows a decent amount about tropical cyclones. Look to the professional mets, the NHC, or your local weather office for the best information.

supercane4867
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4966
Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:43 am

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1005 Postby supercane4867 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:48 pm

18z GFS dropped the Caribbean cruiser
0 likes   

User avatar
MetroMike
Category 4
Category 4
Posts: 952
Joined: Sun Aug 29, 2004 8:13 pm
Location: Tampa Bay
Contact:

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1006 Postby MetroMike » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:09 pm

12Z CMC is sniffing out a low developing the the MDR starting around Thursday and traversing the west north westerly
to North of Puerto Rico Tuesday the 11th.
Will see if this is a one run and done or not.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0212&fh=12
0 likes   

St0rmTh0r
Category 1
Category 1
Posts: 369
Joined: Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:04 pm

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1007 Postby St0rmTh0r » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:57 pm

MetroMike wrote:12Z CMC is sniffing out a low developing the the MDR starting around Thursday and traversing the west north westerly
to North of Puerto Rico Tuesday the 11th.
Will see if this is a one run and done or not.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0212&fh=12

Ridging looks to be building back as its looks headed to Bahamas again
1 likes   

User avatar
aspen
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 8818
Joined: Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:10 pm
Location: Connecticut, USA

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1008 Postby aspen » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:10 pm

MetroMike wrote:12Z CMC is sniffing out a low developing the the MDR starting around Thursday and traversing the west north westerly
to North of Puerto Rico Tuesday the 11th.
Will see if this is a one run and done or not.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0212&fh=12

I think that’s the low-rider the GFS showed on one run a few days ago but quickly dropped afterwards. We’ll see by mid-week if the CMC can sniff out MDR development a second time like it did with Gonzalo.
0 likes   
Irene '11 Sandy '12 Hermine '16 5/15/2018 Derecho Fay '20 Isaias '20 Elsa '21 Henri '21 Ida '21

I am only a meteorology enthusiast who knows a decent amount about tropical cyclones. Look to the professional mets, the NHC, or your local weather office for the best information.

User avatar
cycloneye
Admin
Admin
Posts: 145308
Age: 68
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:54 am
Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1009 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:33 pm

aspen wrote:
MetroMike wrote:12Z CMC is sniffing out a low developing the the MDR starting around Thursday and traversing the west north westerly
to North of Puerto Rico Tuesday the 11th.
Will see if this is a one run and done or not.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0212&fh=12

I think that’s the low-rider the GFS showed on one run a few days ago but quickly dropped afterwards. We’ll see by mid-week if the CMC can sniff out MDR development a second time like it did with Gonzalo.


12z ECMWF is also sniffing.

Image
3 likes   
Visit the Caribbean-Central America Weather Thread where you can find at first post web cams,radars
and observations from Caribbean basin members Click Here

HurricaneEric
Tropical Storm
Tropical Storm
Posts: 146
Age: 30
Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:06 am
Location: Miami, FL

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1010 Postby HurricaneEric » Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:14 pm

Euro and CMC seem to be forecasting a favorable environment for a wave (as depicted in the 12z Euro) coming off Africa in about 6-7 days.

This is how the 12z Euro ends at day 10 with slow development (potential threat to the LAs?):Image

And the 12z CMC at day 10 (faster, more developed, and further north than the Euro):
Image

Nada on GFS so far.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
0 likes   
Irene '99, Katrina '05, Wilma '05, Irma '17 (storms I remember my area getting hurricane force winds/gusts).

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and shouldn't be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. For official information, please refer to the experts.

User avatar
Jr0d
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1409
Joined: Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:52 am
Location: Cayo Hueso

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1011 Postby Jr0d » Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:28 pm

HurricaneEric wrote:Euro and CMC seem to be forecasting a favorable environment for a wave (as depicted in the 12z Euro) coming off Africa in about 6-7 days.

This is how the 12z Euro ends at day 10 with slow development (potential threat to the LAs?):https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200803/d5d96a7d961e8fb0856f21e8c4c21b82.jpg

And the 12z CMC at day 10 (faster, more developed, and further north than the Euro):
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200803/fb84722b859e1b2db5a750996a02d33b.jpg

Nada on GFS so far.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk



Definately something to watch. The GFS has not done well sniffing out future development this year.
1 likes   

User avatar
Kingarabian
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 15980
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:06 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1012 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:05 pm

Very long range 18z GFS coming in with some WCaribb development.
0 likes   
RIP Kobe Bryant

User avatar
Cpv17
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4979
Joined: Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:24 pm
Location: Wharton/El Campo, TX

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1013 Postby Cpv17 » Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:29 pm

Kingarabian wrote:Very long range 18z GFS coming in with some WCaribb development.


The 12z Para has it also. Looks like a CAG feature.
1 likes   

User avatar
cheezyWXguy
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 6108
Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:29 am
Location: Dallas, TX

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1014 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:02 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:Very long range 18z GFS coming in with some WCaribb development.


The 12z Para has it also. Looks like a CAG feature.

Looks like an interaction between the cag feature and a tropical wave. The initial vorticity can be traced back to something that it initializes about a third of the way between Africa and the islands at hour 0.
1 likes   

User avatar
Kingarabian
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 15980
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:06 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1015 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:07 am

00z GFS has it again. So some sort of signal exists.
0 likes   
RIP Kobe Bryant

Fancy1001
Category 1
Category 1
Posts: 452
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:16 pm

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1016 Postby Fancy1001 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:14 am

Kingarabian wrote:00z GFS has it again. So some sort of signal exists.

It kinda of looks like two distinct cores fighting for control over the system. Josephine develops into a decent hurricane. Then a developing Kyle enters its proximity as Josephine weakens due to land interaction and eventually absorbs Josephines remains as he (Kyle) enters into the gulf.
1 likes   

User avatar
CyclonicFury
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2025
Age: 26
Joined: Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:32 pm
Location: NC
Contact:

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1017 Postby CyclonicFury » Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:15 am

The signal is likely related to a strong CCKW expected to pass through the Atlantic around the third week of August. This CCKW signal is showing up on the GFS, CFS and EPS. This CCKW may jumpstart the true Atlantic peak period, after a potential lull for the next 1-2 weeks.
4 likes   
NCSU B.S. in Meteorology Class of 2021. Tropical weather blogger at http://www.cyclonicfury.com. My forecasts and thoughts are NOT official, for official forecasts please consult the National Hurricane Center.

Fancy1001
Category 1
Category 1
Posts: 452
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:16 pm

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1018 Postby Fancy1001 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:17 am

Fancy1001 wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:00z GFS has it again. So some sort of signal exists.

It kinda of looks like two distinct cores fighting for control over the system. Josephine develops into a decent hurricane. Then a developing Kyle enters its proximity, heading northwest towards the gulf as Josephine weakens due to land interaction, and eventually absorbs Josephine's remains as he (Kyle) enters into the gulf.
0 likes   

Fancy1001
Category 1
Category 1
Posts: 452
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:16 pm

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1019 Postby Fancy1001 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:19 am

Fancy1001 wrote:
Fancy1001 wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:00z GFS has it again. So some sort of signal exists.

It kinda of looks like two distinct cores fighting for control over the system. Josephine develops into a decent hurricane. Then a developing Kyle enters its proximity, heading northwest towards the gulf as Josephine weakens due to land interaction, and eventually absorbs Josephine's remains as he (Kyle) enters into the gulf.


There's even a little fujiwhara effect.

Would that system become kyle, or would it still be considered Josephine?
0 likes   

User avatar
GCANE
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 11496
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:03 am

Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1020 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:00 am

CMC keeps biting.
Genesis in 48 hrs

Image
0 likes   


Return to “Talkin' Tropics”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: cycloneye, ouragans, Sciencerocks, Stratton23, TampaWxLurker and 37 guests