Discussion of Tropical Cyclone Naming Lists

[sma10]

I’zell Ilyas Isac
Iacopo Imad Isacc
Iacovo Imam Isacco
Iago Iman Isachar
Iaian Imani Isadore
Iain Imanoel Isaeah
Iakob Imanol Isai
Iakobos Imanuel Isaia
Iakona Imari Isaiah
Iakov Ime Isaiahi
Iakovos Immannuel Isaias
Iam Immanuel Isaih
Ian Immanuele Isaija
Iann Imraan Isais
Ianto Imran Isak
Iarlaith Imray Isam
Iason Imre Isambard
Iatos Imri Isan
Iawo Imrie Isander
Iba Imron Isandero
Ibahimos Ina Isandra
Ibaz Inacio Isandro
Iben Inaki Isao
Ibina Iñaki Isayah
Ibn Inam Isen
Ibra Inar Iser
Ibraahim Inaz Ishaan
Ibragim Ince Isham
Ibraheem Inda Ishanjeet
Ibraheemo Indalecio Ishaq
Ibrahim Indalo Ishatho
Ibrahima Indeeo Ishin
Ibrahimu Inderjit Ishmael
Ibrohim Inderpal Ishree
Icabod Indi Isia
Icah India Isiah
Icalo Indiana Isidor
Icar Indigo Isidore
Icarus Indio Isidoro
Iccah Indja Isidoros
Icharo Indo Isidorus
Ichho Indone Isidro
Ichiro Indonne Iskender
Idan Indorin Iskren
Iddo Indraj Isler
Idel Indrajit Isley
Iden Indrans Islwyn
Idil Indrayan Ismaal
Ido Indri Ismaeel
Idogbe Indy Ismael
Idon Indyo Ismail
Idowu Infinity Ismal
Idralos Ingamar Ismat
Idran Ingbert Ismayl
Idrees Ingelbert Isom
Idris Ingemur Ispino
Idriss Ingevar Ispinosa
Idwal Inglebert Israel
Iefan Ingo Israfel
Ieke Ingraham Israil
Ieki Ingrahame Israj
Ieni Ingram Isreal
Ieremias Ingrams Issa
Ieremiya Ingrim Issac
Iestyn Ingvar Issachar
Ieuan Inigalos Issiah
Iezekiel Inigo Istafen
Ifan Inisha Istafin
Ifanos Iniyan Istahi
Iffa Injaro Istan
Ifigenio Injiro Istban
Ifigenios Innes Istvan
Ifinos Inness Itadi
Ifor Inni Itaho
Ifra Inniss Itai
Iga Innman Ital
Igal Innocent Italino
Iggesh Innocentius Italo
Iggie Innocenty Italon
Iggy Innocenzio Itamar
Igli Innokenti Itay
Ign Innokentiy Ithaca
Igna Inocencio Ithacian
Ignace Inus Ithamar
Ignacio Inuyasha Itialo
Ignacius Inver Itiel
Ignacy Inyalo Itshiro
Ignas Ioachim Ittai
Ignasevic Ioachime Ittamar
Ignati Ioakim Itzachu
Ignatios Ioan Itzae
Ignatious Ioanis Itzael
Ignatius Ioannes Itzak
Ignatz Ioannis Itzcuauhtli
Ignatzis Ioanniso Itzhak
Ignaz Iodoc Iuliu
Ignaziano Iohannes Iuma
Ignazio Iokepa Ivaan
Ignotus Iokua Ivair
Igor Iolaus Ivan
Ihab Iolo Ivandale
Ihan Iomhair Ivanhode
Iharo Iomhar Ivanhoe
Ihlas Ion Ivann
Ihor Ionakana Ivano
Ihsan Ionas Ivanoe
Iisakki Ionel Ivar
Iishim IonuÈ› Ivarr
Ijas Iordan Ive
Ijaz Iordanos Iven
Ijek Iorwerth Iver
Ijiah Ioseb Iverson
Ijin Iosef Ives
Ikabod Ioseph Ivey
Ikaia Iosif Ivica
Ikaika Iosip Ivin
Ikaikalani Iouis Ivine
Ikaros Ioulianos Ivo
Ikarus Ipash Ivor
Ikavod Ipi Ivory
Ike Ipih Ivy
Ikem Ipiz Iwan
Ikemefuna Ipo Iwer
Ikeni Ipoh Iwers
Ikenna Ipol Iwo
Iker Ippolit Ixigo
Ikey Ippolito Iyar
Ikhyd Iqa Iyas
Ikina Iqbal Iyaz
Ikino Ira Iyer
Iko Iraaldo Iyler
Ila Iraan Iyov
Ilahee Irab Iyyar
Ilahi Iraj Iza
Ilan Irak Izaac
Ilario Irakin Izaak
Ilarios Iram Izaan
Ilay Ireli Izael
Ilda Irenaeus Izaiah
Ildefonso Ireneo Izaias
Ilhan Ireneus Izaiyah
Ilia Ireneusz Izajasz
Iliah Irenio Izak
Ilian Irfan Izar
Iliaro Irie Izaya
Ilias Irino Izayah
Ilie Iris Izekiel
Ilija Irish Izeyah
Ilijah Irl Iziaah
Ilio Irman Iziah
Ilir Irnes Izidor
Ilisha Iro Izidro
Ilitios Iroh Izik
Iliu Irrylath Izmail
Ilivan Irven Izsak
Ilja Irvin Izuku
Illario Irvine Izydor
Illarion Irving Izyk
Illarionn Irvyn Izz al Din
Illias Irwin Izzale
Illtud Irwinn Izzido
Illtyd Irwino Izzie
Illya Irwyn Izzilo
Ilon Isa Izzy

Every name on this list > Isaias

[zhukm29]

I’zell Ilyas Isac
Iacopo Imad Isacc
Iacovo Imam Isacco
Iago Iman Isachar
Iaian Imani Isadore
Iain Imanoel Isaeah
Iakob Imanol Isai
Iakobos Imanuel Isaia
Iakona Imari Isaiah
Iakov Ime Isaiahi
Iakovos Immannuel Isaias
Iam Immanuel Isaih
Ian Immanuele Isaija
Iann Imraan Isais
Ianto Imran Isak
Iarlaith Imray Isam
Iason Imre Isambard
Iatos Imri Isan
Iawo Imrie Isander
Iba Imron Isandero
Ibahimos Ina Isandra
Ibaz Inacio Isandro
Iben Inaki Isao
Ibina Iñaki Isayah
Ibn Inam Isen
Ibra Inar Iser
Ibraahim Inaz Ishaan
Ibragim Ince Isham
Ibraheem Inda Ishanjeet
Ibraheemo Indalecio Ishaq
Ibrahim Indalo Ishatho
Ibrahima Indeeo Ishin
Ibrahimu Inderjit Ishmael
Ibrohim Inderpal Ishree
Icabod Indi Isia
Icah India Isiah
Icalo Indiana Isidor
Icar Indigo Isidore
Icarus Indio Isidoro
Iccah Indja Isidoros
Icharo Indo Isidorus
Ichho Indone Isidro
Ichiro Indonne Iskender
Idan Indorin Iskren
Iddo Indraj Isler
Idel Indrajit Isley
Iden Indrans Islwyn
Idil Indrayan Ismaal
Ido Indri Ismaeel
Idogbe Indy Ismael
Idon Indyo Ismail
Idowu Infinity Ismal
Idralos Ingamar Ismat
Idran Ingbert Ismayl
Idrees Ingelbert Isom
Idris Ingemur Ispino
Idriss Ingevar Ispinosa
Idwal Inglebert Israel
Iefan Ingo Israfel
Ieke Ingraham Israil
Ieki Ingrahame Israj
Ieni Ingram Isreal
Ieremias Ingrams Issa
Ieremiya Ingrim Issac
Iestyn Ingvar Issachar
Ieuan Inigalos Issiah
Iezekiel Inigo Istafen
Ifan Inisha Istafin
Ifanos Iniyan Istahi
Iffa Injaro Istan
Ifigenio Injiro Istban
Ifigenios Innes Istvan
Ifinos Inness Itadi
Ifor Inni Itaho
Ifra Inniss Itai
Iga Innman Ital
Igal Innocent Italino
Iggesh Innocentius Italo
Iggie Innocenty Italon
Iggy Innocenzio Itamar
Igli Innokenti Itay
Ign Innokentiy Ithaca
Igna Inocencio Ithacian
Ignace Inus Ithamar
Ignacio Inuyasha Itialo
Ignacius Inver Itiel
Ignacy Inyalo Itshiro
Ignas Ioachim Ittai
Ignasevic Ioachime Ittamar
Ignati Ioakim Itzachu
Ignatios Ioan Itzae
Ignatious Ioanis Itzael
Ignatius Ioannes Itzak
Ignatz Ioannis Itzcuauhtli
Ignatzis Ioanniso Itzhak
Ignaz Iodoc Iuliu
Ignaziano Iohannes Iuma
Ignazio Iokepa Ivaan
Ignotus Iokua Ivair
Igor Iolaus Ivan
Ihab Iolo Ivandale
Ihan Iomhair Ivanhode
Iharo Iomhar Ivanhoe
Ihlas Ion Ivann
Ihor Ionakana Ivano
Ihsan Ionas Ivanoe
Iisakki Ionel Ivar
Iishim IonuÈ› Ivarr
Ijas Iordan Ive
Ijaz Iordanos Iven
Ijek Iorwerth Iver
Ijiah Ioseb Iverson
Ijin Iosef Ives
Ikabod Ioseph Ivey
Ikaia Iosif Ivica
Ikaika Iosip Ivin
Ikaikalani Iouis Ivine
Ikaros Ioulianos Ivo
Ikarus Ipash Ivor
Ikavod Ipi Ivory
Ike Ipih Ivy
Ikem Ipiz Iwan
Ikemefuna Ipo Iwer
Ikeni Ipoh Iwers
Ikenna Ipol Iwo
Iker Ippolit Ixigo
Ikey Ippolito Iyar
Ikhyd Iqa Iyas
Ikina Iqbal Iyaz
Ikino Ira Iyer
Iko Iraaldo Iyler
Ila Iraan Iyov
Ilahee Irab Iyyar
Ilahi Iraj Iza
Ilan Irak Izaac
Ilario Irakin Izaak
Ilarios Iram Izaan
Ilay Ireli Izael
Ilda Irenaeus Izaiah
Ildefonso Ireneo Izaias
Ilhan Ireneus Izaiyah
Ilia Ireneusz Izajasz
Iliah Irenio Izak
Ilian Irfan Izar
Iliaro Irie Izaya
Ilias Irino Izayah
Ilie Iris Izekiel
Ilija Irish Izeyah
Ilijah Irl Iziaah
Ilio Irman Iziah
Ilir Irnes Izidor
Ilisha Iro Izidro
Ilitios Iroh Izik
Iliu Irrylath Izmail
Ilivan Irven Izsak
Ilja Irvin Izuku
Illario Irvine Izydor
Illarion Irving Izyk
Illarionn Irvyn Izz al Din
Illias Irwin Izzale
Illtud Irwinn Izzido
Illtyd Irwino Izzie
Illya Irwyn Izzilo
Ilon Isa Izzy

Every name on this list > Isaias

Well, maybe not Itzcuauhtli... Hurricane Itzcuauhtli doesn't roll off the tongue as easily.

[Steve]

^^

I looked it up and it approximates is a coo uh-ugly

https://www.howtopronounce.com/itzcuauhtli

While sort of a cool name (Golden Eagle), I'll take Isaias for $1,000

itzcuauhtli (Classical Nahuatl)
Pronunciation
IPA: /iːtskʷaːwtɬi/
Origin & history
ītztli "obsidian" + cuāuhtli "eagle"
Noun
ītzcuāuhtli
Golden eagle, Aquila chrysaetos.
Entries with "itzcuauhtli"
itztli: …ihuan xinechmoyezatliti. Take this obsidian knife and wound me with it and drink my blood. Derived words & phrases Itzcoatl itzcuauhtli itztic quetzalitztli…

[aspen]

I’zell Ilyas Isac
Iacopo Imad Isacc
Iacovo Imam Isacco
Iago Iman Isachar
Iaian Imani Isadore
Iain Imanoel Isaeah
Iakob Imanol Isai
Iakobos Imanuel Isaia
Iakona Imari Isaiah
Iakov Ime Isaiahi
Iakovos Immannuel Isaias
Iam Immanuel Isaih
Ian Immanuele Isaija
Iann Imraan Isais
Ianto Imran Isak
Iarlaith Imray Isam
Iason Imre Isambard
Iatos Imri Isan
Iawo Imrie Isander
Iba Imron Isandero
Ibahimos Ina Isandra
Ibaz Inacio Isandro
Iben Inaki Isao
Ibina Iñaki Isayah
Ibn Inam Isen
Ibra Inar Iser
Ibraahim Inaz Ishaan
Ibragim Ince Isham
Ibraheem Inda Ishanjeet
Ibraheemo Indalecio Ishaq
Ibrahim Indalo Ishatho
Ibrahima Indeeo Ishin
Ibrahimu Inderjit Ishmael
Ibrohim Inderpal Ishree
Icabod Indi Isia
Icah India Isiah
Icalo Indiana Isidor
Icar Indigo Isidore
Icarus Indio Isidoro
Iccah Indja Isidoros
Icharo Indo Isidorus
Ichho Indone Isidro
Ichiro Indonne Iskender
Idan Indorin Iskren
Iddo Indraj Isler
Idel Indrajit Isley
Iden Indrans Islwyn
Idil Indrayan Ismaal
Ido Indri Ismaeel
Idogbe Indy Ismael
Idon Indyo Ismail
Idowu Infinity Ismal
Idralos Ingamar Ismat
Idran Ingbert Ismayl
Idrees Ingelbert Isom
Idris Ingemur Ispino
Idriss Ingevar Ispinosa
Idwal Inglebert Israel
Iefan Ingo Israfel
Ieke Ingraham Israil
Ieki Ingrahame Israj
Ieni Ingram Isreal
Ieremias Ingrams Issa
Ieremiya Ingrim Issac
Iestyn Ingvar Issachar
Ieuan Inigalos Issiah
Iezekiel Inigo Istafen
Ifan Inisha Istafin
Ifanos Iniyan Istahi
Iffa Injaro Istan
Ifigenio Injiro Istban
Ifigenios Innes Istvan
Ifinos Inness Itadi
Ifor Inni Itaho
Ifra Inniss Itai
Iga Innman Ital
Igal Innocent Italino
Iggesh Innocentius Italo
Iggie Innocenty Italon
Iggy Innocenzio Itamar
Igli Innokenti Itay
Ign Innokentiy Ithaca
Igna Inocencio Ithacian
Ignace Inus Ithamar
Ignacio Inuyasha Itialo
Ignacius Inver Itiel
Ignacy Inyalo Itshiro
Ignas Ioachim Ittai
Ignasevic Ioachime Ittamar
Ignati Ioakim Itzachu
Ignatios Ioan Itzae
Ignatious Ioanis Itzael
Ignatius Ioannes Itzak
Ignatz Ioannis Itzcuauhtli
Ignatzis Ioanniso Itzhak
Ignaz Iodoc Iuliu
Ignaziano Iohannes Iuma
Ignazio Iokepa Ivaan
Ignotus Iokua Ivair
Igor Iolaus Ivan
Ihab Iolo Ivandale
Ihan Iomhair Ivanhode
Iharo Iomhar Ivanhoe
Ihlas Ion Ivann
Ihor Ionakana Ivano
Ihsan Ionas Ivanoe
Iisakki Ionel Ivar
Iishim IonuÈ› Ivarr
Ijas Iordan Ive
Ijaz Iordanos Iven
Ijek Iorwerth Iver
Ijiah Ioseb Iverson
Ijin Iosef Ives
Ikabod Ioseph Ivey
Ikaia Iosif Ivica
Ikaika Iosip Ivin
Ikaikalani Iouis Ivine
Ikaros Ioulianos Ivo
Ikarus Ipash Ivor
Ikavod Ipi Ivory
Ike Ipih Ivy
Ikem Ipiz Iwan
Ikemefuna Ipo Iwer
Ikeni Ipoh Iwers
Ikenna Ipol Iwo
Iker Ippolit Ixigo
Ikey Ippolito Iyar
Ikhyd Iqa Iyas
Ikina Iqbal Iyaz
Ikino Ira Iyer
Iko Iraaldo Iyler
Ila Iraan Iyov
Ilahee Irab Iyyar
Ilahi Iraj Iza
Ilan Irak Izaac
Ilario Irakin Izaak
Ilarios Iram Izaan
Ilay Ireli Izael
Ilda Irenaeus Izaiah
Ildefonso Ireneo Izaias
Ilhan Ireneus Izaiyah
Ilia Ireneusz Izajasz
Iliah Irenio Izak
Ilian Irfan Izar
Iliaro Irie Izaya
Ilias Irino Izayah
Ilie Iris Izekiel
Ilija Irish Izeyah
Ilijah Irl Iziaah
Ilio Irman Iziah
Ilir Irnes Izidor
Ilisha Iro Izidro
Ilitios Iroh Izik
Iliu Irrylath Izmail
Ilivan Irven Izsak
Ilja Irvin Izuku
Illario Irvine Izydor
Illarion Irving Izyk
Illarionn Irvyn Izz al Din
Illias Irwin Izzale
Illtud Irwinn Izzido
Illtyd Irwino Izzie
Illya Irwyn Izzilo
Ilon Isa Izzy

Every name on this list > Isaias

I dunno man, Ikhyd seems like its own league of terrible.

[EquusStorm]

I definitely think it would be great to have Native American names on the list but I dunno about that one

[1900hurricane]

Speaking of constant lists resuming where they left off the previous season and names from different countries/cultures, I really do think the WPac has it right. Check out the naming lists from the Typhoon Committee. There's five lists, and each country on the committee has two names on each list, meaning each country contributes ten names total, and all countries and cultures in the basin are represented. When a name is retired, the country that selected that name gets to pick the replacement. A potential drawback is that the names aren't alphabetical, but that also in turn opens up names that aren't constrained to a particular letter. In the active WPac, the system seems to me to work without a hitch.

[1900hurricane]

Here's what a possible Hurricane Committee might look like. Just out of the abundance of countries around the Caribbean, I only gave each country one name per list for five total (slight exception with the US/Puerto Rico), but that still gives us a grid of 150 names.

[CrazyC83]

If that system was used, how would the EPAC be handled? The only countries that are typically affected are the USA, Mexico and the Central American countries (Colombia also borders but isn't normally affected that way). A couple ideas:

* One could be a list that is used in both basins continuously.

* One could be a separate list that each control suggests 15 names for. On that list, only English and Spanish names should be used.

I do think human names should still be used on the lists, with a mixture mainly of English, French and Spanish. Names retired since 1990 should remain out of commission, as should names of storms with extreme damage (i.e. Hazel, Flora, Camille, David, Gilbert, Hugo). Names could either go to "permanent" retirement or "moratorium" status. Permanent retirement is for the truly historic storms like Katrina, Sandy, Mitch and Maria. Moratorium status is for significant storms that should be set aside such as Isabel, Noel, Nate, Igor and Dennis (some examples). Names from that list are re-released for consideration after 30 years.

[1900hurricane]

To be completely honest, I didn't even think about how the Eastern Pacific factored into the mix. The NHC is a little unusual in that they have two distinct non-joining ocean basins they watch over. It is worth noting that the India Meteorological Department (IMD) oversees both the Bay of Bengal and Arabian Sea in the Northern Indian Ocean. Likewise, the Australian Bureau of Meteorology (BoM) is in charge of TCs in both the SW Pacific and SE Indian Oceans. In both cases, names from each basin are selected from the same lists, so the same might be possible between the NAtl and EPac. The volume of tropical storms between the NAtl and EPac is a bit more than the IMD or even the BoM usually deal with in any given season, but given 30ish names on five lists, that's likely enough to keep the names fresh without too much use. The WPac has 28 names on each of the five lists, and that's been enough to keep each name from repeating for five to six years.

I'd probably add two more names for 32 per list with the EPac factored in, with a second spot for Mexico because of EPac impacts making 31. The 32nd is a little trickier, and I thought of three options. Option 1 would be giving the UK or maybe France a second name slot due to the number of overseas territories across the Caribbean, and would perhaps the the most feasible. Option 2 would be to give Hawaii a name spot, but they're technically covered by a different RSMC (CPHC), and their own naming list is probably fine. Option 3 (probably the most far-fetched) would be to include Spain, which doesn't have any overseas territories, but also isn't completely immune to a TC strike like Vince '05. Regardless, 5 lists with 32 names each is probably enough to cover both the NAtl and EPac, but if it isn't, a sixth list could also be added.

Browsing through The WMO page on tropical cyclone names, there's actually more lists that have taken a WPac approach and had different countries select names for the lists. The IMD started using this style when they began naming TCs in 2004, and names used in the SWIO also have names selected by member countries, although their names remain alphabetical. Overall, it looks like things might be slowly trending towards this type of naming scheme for tropical cyclones worldwide.

[Cleveland Kent Evans]

I do think human names should still be used on the lists, with a mixture mainly of English, French and Spanish.

A minor point: Given the existence of Sint Maarten, Saba, Sint Eustatius, Aruba, Curacao, and Bonaire, why haven't a few Dutch names also been used on the North Atlantic lists?

[1900hurricane]

To be completely honest, I didn't even think about how the Eastern Pacific factored into the mix. The NHC is a little unusual in that they have two distinct non-joining ocean basins they watch over. It is worth noting that the India Meteorological Department (IMD) oversees both the Bay of Bengal and Arabian Sea in the Northern Indian Ocean. Likewise, the Australian Bureau of Meteorology (BoM) is in charge of TCs in both the SW Pacific and SE Indian Oceans. In both cases, names from each basin are selected from the same lists, so the same might be possible between the NAtl and EPac. The volume of tropical storms between the NAtl and EPac is a bit more than the IMD or even the BoM usually deal with in any given season, but given 30ish names on five lists, that's likely enough to keep the names fresh without too much use. The WPac has 28 names on each of the five lists, and that's been enough to keep each name from repeating for five to six years.

I'd probably add two more names for 32 per list with the EPac factored in, with a second spot for Mexico because of EPac impacts making 31. The 32nd is a little trickier, and I thought of three options. Option 1 would be giving the UK or maybe France a second name slot due to the number of overseas territories across the Caribbean, and would perhaps the the most feasible. Option 2 would be to give Hawaii a name spot, but they're technically covered by a different RSMC (CPHC), and their own naming list is probably fine. Option 3 (probably the most far-fetched) would be to include Spain, which doesn't have any overseas territories, but also isn't completely immune to a TC strike like Vince '05. Regardless, 5 lists with 32 names each is probably enough to cover both the NAtl and EPac, but if it isn't, a sixth list could also be added.

Browsing through The WMO page on tropical cyclone names, there's actually more lists that have taken a WPac approach and had different countries select names for the lists. The IMD started using this style when they began naming TCs in 2004, and names used in the SWIO also have names selected by member countries, although their names remain alphabetical. Overall, it looks like things might be slowly trending towards this type of naming scheme for tropical cyclones worldwide.

In light of recent events, I think six lists would be more appropriate than five.

[GSBHurricane]

Dr. Rick Knabb posted this yesterday.

https://twitter.com/DrRickKnabb/status/ ... 95840?s=20

[Cleveland Kent Evans]

Dr. Rick Knabb posted this yesterday.

https://twitter.com/DrRickKnabb/status/ ... 95840?s=20

Too bad I can't reply on Twitter. I appreciate his effort. I would really like to see some Hispanic names among his Y's, though. Names starting with Y have been quite popular in the Hispanic community the last few decades. I think the Y's should include some of these, like Yahir, Yadiel, Yariel, and Yandel among male names or Yesenia, Yaritza, Yamileth, Yareli, Yaretzi, Yaneli, and Yadira among female names.