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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Tropical Storm

#101 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:22 am

ADT fixing an eye on this in its latest analysis. Can't see it clearly though:
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----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 17 AUG 2020 Time : 075020 UTC
Lat : 12:53:45 N Lon : 101:40:30 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
3.6 / 993.5mb/ 57.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
3.6 4.0 5.9

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR :N/A km

Center Temp : -13.8C Cloud Region Temp : -66.4C

Scene Type : EYE

Subtropical Adjustment : OFF

Extratropical Adjustment : OFF
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Tropical Storm

#102 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:03 am

Tropical Storm Genevieve Discussion Number 4
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP122020
400 AM CDT Mon Aug 17 2020

Genevieve's infrared satellite presentation continues to improve in
organization, with the center embedded beneath a Central Dense
Overcast and strong convection occurring in two bands to the
southwest and northwest of the center. There has been a dearth of
microwave data over the cyclone during the past few hours, so it's
difficult to know how the internal structure has changed, but
subjective and objective satellite estimates all support raising
the intensity to 55 kt.

Genevieve's motion has not changed--still west-northwestward (290
degrees) at 16 kt. The cyclone will be moving along the periphery
of a strong mid-level ridge which extends from the southwestern
United States southeastward into Mexico. This ridge should steer
Genevieve toward the west-northwest or northwest for the entire
5-day forecast period, but small variations in the strength and
orientation of the ridge will play a role in how close Genevieve
gets to the southern portion of the Baja California peninsula. The
track models are showing a slight bend to the storm's forecast path
in 2-3 days, with the most recent run of the GFS showing a much
closer approach to the Baja California peninsula. At this stage,
however, that model is a bit of an outlier compared to the other
guidance. Still, given the new set of models, the updated NHC
track forecast has been shifted north and east of the previous
track prediction, and it lies very close to the ECMWF, HWRF, and
HCCA model solutions.

Some of the intensity guidance for Genevieve is incredible. Due to
low shear, very warm water, and high atmospheric moisture, several
of the various SHIPS Rapid Intensification (RI) indices for the
12-, 24-, and 36-hour forecast periods are between 95 and 100
percent--numbers that suggest there is little doubt that Genevieve
will go through a period of significant RI during the next couple
of days. RI is explicitly shown in the NHC intensity forecast,
which is very near the HCCA and Florida State Superensemble
solutions and shows Genevieve peaking as a category 4 hurricane in
about 48 hours. Amazingly, the LGEM and COAMPS-TC models are even
higher than what is indicated in the official forecast, showing a
peak intensity of 125-130 kt. A combination of cooler waters and
increasing shear (especially at the end of the forecast period) is
expected to cause weakening on days 3 through 5.

Large swells generated by Genevieve are expected to begin affecting
portions of the coast of southern Mexico today and will spread
northward along the coast of Mexico to the Baja California
peninsula by Wednesday.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 17/0900Z 13.3N 101.7W 55 KT 65 MPH
12H 17/1800Z 14.4N 104.0W 75 KT 85 MPH
24H 18/0600Z 16.0N 106.7W 95 KT 110 MPH
36H 18/1800Z 17.4N 108.7W 110 KT 125 MPH
48H 19/0600Z 18.7N 110.1W 120 KT 140 MPH
60H 19/1800Z 20.0N 111.2W 115 KT 130 MPH
72H 20/0600Z 21.3N 112.3W 100 KT 115 MPH
96H 21/0600Z 23.5N 115.0W 70 KT 80 MPH
120H 22/0600Z 25.5N 118.5W 45 KT 50 MPH

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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Tropical Storm

#103 Postby Visioen » Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:47 am

'Incredible' , 'amazingly' - not words you read often in a NHC discussion
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Tropical Storm

#105 Postby aspen » Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:24 am

Partial eyewall in a microwave pass from 7z
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Tropical Storm

#106 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:59 am

17/1130 UTC 13.9N 102.1W T4.0/4.0 GENEVIEVE
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Tropical Storm

#107 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:00 am

* GFS version *
* EAST PACIFIC 2020 SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST *
* IR SAT DATA AVAILABLE, OHC AVAILABLE *
* GENEVIEVE EP122020 08/17/20 12 UTC *

TIME (HR) 0 6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120 132 144 156 168
V (KT) NO LAND 65 74 84 93 102 114 120 119 112 102 91 78 68 57 47 38 30
V (KT) LAND 65 74 84 93 102 114 120 119 112 102 91 78 68 57 47 38 30
V (KT) LGEM 65 75 85 95 104 118 127 121 107 95 79 62 49 38 30 24 19
Storm Type TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP

SHEAR (KT) 3 2 2 3 4 7 3 4 6 10 16 17 15 12 18 18 18
SHEAR ADJ (KT) 4 4 -2 -3 -7 -8 -6 -2 0 2 2 4 0 8 1 10 1
SHEAR DIR 360 38 98 119 176 144 196 160 147 145 144 153 177 165 174 190 199
SST (C) 30.5 30.4 30.2 30.0 29.6 29.4 28.9 27.5 26.8 26.5 24.8 23.6 23.1 22.0 21.4 20.9 20.6
POT. INT. (KT) 172 172 169 167 162 159 153 138 131 128 110 98 93 81 75 69 66
200 MB T (C) -52.7 -52.6 -52.3 -52.6 -52.9 -52.0 -52.2 -51.3 -51.1 -50.3 -50.2 -49.5 -50.0 -49.9 -50.0 -49.9 -50.0
200 MB VXT (C) 0.1 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.4 0.6 0.5 0.8 0.8 0.9 0.9 1.0 0.9 0.7 0.6 0.8
TH_E DEV (C) 4 6 8 7 7 8 6 7 5 6 3 3 1 0 0 0 0
700-500 MB RH 80 80 80 78 78 75 74 69 61 53 56 53 55 49 48 43 40
MODEL VTX (KT) 18 20 21 22 24 25 29 31 31 30 28 26 25 21 19 16 14
850 MB ENV VOR 8 16 21 19 38 55 55 75 75 69 64 45 45 44 49 33 42
200 MB DIV 58 98 122 122 123 111 84 85 54 21 -6 -5 2 0 10 -3 11
700-850 TADV -11 -12 -7 -8 -4 0 0 -4 -7 -2 -2 0 0 0 -1 4 0
LAND (KM) 383 364 349 354 360 420 357 250 245 225 316 339 434 564 638 656 617
LAT (DEG N) 14.0 14.8 15.6 16.4 17.1 18.4 19.7 21.0 22.3 23.4 24.4 25.4 26.4 xx.x xx.x xx.x xx.x
LONG(DEG W) 102.1 103.6 105.0 106.2 107.4 109.1 110.3 111.3 112.5 113.9 115.4 117.1 119.1 xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x
STM SPEED (KT) 16 16 15 14 12 10 8 8 8 8 8 10 10 9 8 7 7
HEAT CONTENT 43 40 31 28 28 18 17 5 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

FORECAST TRACK FROM OFCI INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):300/ 15 CX,CY: -12/ 8
T-12 MAX WIND: 45 PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB): 552 (MEAN=587)
GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV. 50-200 KM RAD: 12.0 (MEAN=14.5)
% GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C 50-200 KM RAD: 96.0 (MEAN=65.0)
PRELIM RI PROB (DV .GE. 35 KT IN 36 HR): 67.5

INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO INTENSITY CHANGE
6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120 132 144 156 168
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SAMPLE MEAN CHANGE 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 2. 1. 1. 0. -0. -1. -2. -3. -4. -4. -5.
SST POTENTIAL 1. 2. 3. 4. 6. 6. 5. 4. 3. 2. -0. -3. -6. -10. -14. -19.
VERTICAL SHEAR MAG 1. 1. 2. 3. 4. 6. 8. 9. 9. 8. 7. 5. 5. 3. 1. -1.
VERTICAL SHEAR ADJ -0. -0. -0. 0. 2. 2. 2. 1. 1. 0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0.
VERTICAL SHEAR DIR 0. 0. 1. 1. 0. 0. -0. -1. -1. -2. -2. -2. -2. -1. -1. -1.
PERSISTENCE 4. 6. 7. 7. 5. 4. 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 2.
200/250 MB TEMP. -0. -0. -0. -0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. 0. 1. 2. 2. 3. 4. 4.
THETA_E EXCESS -0. -0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 0. -0. -1. -2. -4. -5. -6. -8.
700-500 MB RH 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 0. 0. 0.
MODEL VTX TENDENCY 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 10. 15. 18. 16. 14. 10. 8. 3. 1. -2. -4.
850 MB ENV VORTICITY -0. -0. -0. -0. 0. -0. -0. -0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -0.
200 MB DIVERGENCE 0. 1. 1. 1. 2. 2. 4. 5. 4. 4. 3. 2. 1. 1. 0. 0.
850-700 T ADVEC 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -0. 0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -1. -1. -1.
ZONAL STORM MOTION 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 2. 2. 2. 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. -0.
STEERING LEVEL PRES -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -1. -0. -0. -0. -0.
DAYS FROM CLIM. PEAK 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 2. 2. 3. 3. 3. 4. 4. 5.
GOES PREDICTORS 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 3. 3. 3. 3. 2. 2.
OCEAN HEAT CONTENT -0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -0. -0. -0. 0. 0. 1. 2. 3.
RI POTENTIAL 2. 5. 9. 13. 20. 19. 11. 3. -2. -6. -10. -12. -13. -13. -13. -12.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL CHANGE 9. 19. 28. 37. 49. 55. 54. 47. 37. 26. 13. 3. -8. -18. -27. -35.

CURRENT MAX WIND (KT): 65. LAT, LON: 14.0 102.1

** 2020 E. Pacific RI INDEX EP122020 GENEVIEVE 08/17/20 12 UTC **
(SHIPS-RII PREDICTOR TABLE for 30 KT OR MOREMAXIMUM WIND INCREASE IN NEXT 24-h)

Predictor Value RI Predictor Range Scaled Value(0-1) % Contribution
POT = MPI-VMAX (KT) : 103.3 40.5 to 149.3 0.58 15.1
12 HR PERSISTENCE (KT) : 20.0 -22.0 to 44.0 0.64 19.7
850-200 MB SHEAR (KT) : 3.0 19.6 to 1.4 0.91 21.9
D200 (10**7s-1) : 104.6 -33.0 to 160.6 0.71 17.6
MAXIMUM WIND (KT) : 65.0 22.5 to 132.0 0.90 16.7
STD DEV OF IR BR TEMP : 12.0 37.8 to 2.1 0.72 11.1
HEAT CONTENT (KJ/CM2) : 34.0 2.7 to 106.7 0.30 4.4
BL DRY-AIR FLUX (W/M2) : 72.8 800.8 to -82.5 0.82 -15.9
%area of TPW <45 mm upshear : 0.0 56.6 to 0.0 1.00 6.5
2nd PC OF IR BR TEMP : -1.0 2.2 to -1.9 0.77 1.4

SHIPS Prob RI for 20kt/ 12hr RI threshold= 89% is 14.1 times climatological mean ( 6.3%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 25kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 100% is 7.6 times climatological mean (12.6%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 30kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 98% is 11.6 times climatological mean ( 8.6%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 35kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 94% is 15.5 times climatological mean ( 6.2%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 40kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 79% is 18.9 times climatological mean ( 4.2%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 45kt/ 36hr RI threshold= 75% is 11.2 times climatological mean ( 6.7%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 55kt/ 48hr RI threshold= 59% is 10.1 times climatological mean ( 5.9%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 65kt/ 72hr RI threshold= 17% is 3.7 times climatological mean ( 4.7%)

Matrix of RI probabilities
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RI (kt / h) | 20/12 | 25/24 | 30/24 | 35/24 | 40/24 | 45/36 | 55/48 |65/72
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SHIPS-RII: 88.9% 99.8% 98.4% 94.0% 79.2% 74.8% 59.5% 17.3%
Logistic: 60.0% 78.0% 74.2% 65.0% 37.0% 61.5% 47.6% 5.6%
Bayesian: 66.8% 79.3% 85.3% 76.8% 28.9% 67.2% 17.8% 0.4%
Consensus: 71.9% 85.7% 86.0% 78.6% 48.4% 67.8% 41.6% 7.8%
DTOPS: 67.0% 81.0% 82.0% 69.0% 58.0% 66.0% 34.0% 4.0%

## ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) EP122020 GENEVIEVE 08/17/20 12 UTC ##
## STORM NOT ANNULAR, SCREENING STEP FAILED, NPASS=3 NFAIL=4 ##
## AHI= 0 (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#108 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:01 am

12E GENEVIEVE 200817 1200 14.0N 102.1W EPAC 65 992
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#109 Postby aspen » Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:02 am

Officially a hurricane in the 12z best track update: 65 kt and 992 mbar.
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#110 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:52 am

Hurricane Genevieve Discussion Number 5
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP122020
1000 AM CDT Mon Aug 17 2020

Data from a recent SSMIS microwave overpass reveals that an eye is
trying to form underneath the deep convection of Genevieve, but
there is some dry air near the center that may be disrupting the
formation of a solid eyewall. Despite that dry air, large bands
continue to the southwest and northwest of the center, and the deep
convection over the center is expanding in size. The latest Dvorak
satellite intensity estimates from both TAFB and SAB support raising
the initial intensity to 65 kt, making Genevieve the third hurricane
of the 2020 Eastern Pacific hurricane season.

Genevieve jogged a little northwest over the past few hours, but the
longer term motion has been west-northwest at 16 kt. The main
steering mechanism for the cyclone is a strong mid-level ridge which
extends from the southwestern United States southeastward into
Mexico. The model guidance varies slightly on the strength and
orientation of this ridge over the next few days, which could play a
role in how close Genevieve gets to the southern portion of the Baja
California Peninsula. The GFS is the farthest east, but still keeps
the center well offshore, while The UKMET is the westernmost
solution. Overall, the guidance has changed little since early this
morning, and the official forecast is very near the previous track,
which lies near the TVCX/TVCE consensus.

The small amount of dry air near the center should get worked out
of the circulation shortly, and there is high confidence that
the rapid intensification of Genevieve will continue for the next
24-36 h. The SHIPS Rapid Intensification Index (RII) shows a greater
than 95 percent chance of a 30 kt increase in strength in the next
24 h, and nearly an 80 percent chance of a 45 kt increase in
the next 36 h. The global, regional, and consensus intensity aids
all agree that rapid intensification will occur in one form or
another during this time frame as well. The official intensity
forecast is a blend of the HFIP corrected consensus and the IVCN
consensus, and is very close to the previous forecast.

Large swells generated by Genevieve are expected to begin affecting
portions of the coast of southern Mexico today and will spread
northward along the coast of Mexico to the Baja California
peninsula by Wednesday.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 17/1500Z 14.3N 103.0W 65 KT 75 MPH
12H 18/0000Z 15.4N 105.0W 85 KT 100 MPH
24H 18/1200Z 17.0N 107.3W 105 KT 120 MPH
36H 19/0000Z 18.4N 109.0W 120 KT 140 MPH
48H 19/1200Z 19.7N 110.2W 120 KT 140 MPH
60H 20/0000Z 21.0N 111.1W 110 KT 125 MPH
72H 20/1200Z 22.2N 112.4W 95 KT 110 MPH
96H 21/1200Z 24.3N 115.2W 65 KT 75 MPH
120H 22/1200Z 26.4N 118.7W 45 KT 50 MPH

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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#111 Postby aspen » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:57 am

I can’t tell if there’s a large dry slot, or if Genevieve is developing a very tiny core similar to Elida ‘02.
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#112 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:06 pm

aspen wrote:I can’t tell if there’s a large dry slot, or if Genevieve is developing a very tiny core similar to Elida ‘02.

Microwave from a few hours ago suggests that the core may have taken a hit. Seems to be a recurring theme with EPAC systems in that area this year. However, I will say that one thing Genevieve has going for it that other storms roughly in its position this year didn't have (Cristina and Elida) is that giant curved band to the west, so that may be able to wall off any further intrusions, or at least it will prevent them much more easily than the other two systems.

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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#113 Postby aspen » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:09 pm

DorkyMcDorkface wrote:
aspen wrote:I can’t tell if there’s a large dry slot, or if Genevieve is developing a very tiny core similar to Elida ‘02.

Microwave from a few hours ago suggests that the core may have taken a hit. Seems to be a recurring theme with EPAC systems in that area this year. However, I will say that one thing Genevieve has going for it that other storms roughly in its position this year didn't have (Cristina and Elida) is that giant curved band to the west, so that may be able to wall off any further intrusions, or at least it will prevent them much more easily than the other two systems.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/733552978572869632/744962363983265854/20200817.png

The partial eyewall is also very thick and extends over halfway around the center. Just needs to build some more on the NW side and it’ll be ready to bomb out further.

Edit: and there’s a convective band forming that could close off the NW quadrant of the eyewall.
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#114 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:36 pm

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If history is any indication the globals should shift east as it deepens.
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#115 Postby aspen » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:44 pm

Genevieve has taken a bit of a hit from dry air, but it seems like it'll be able to recover rather quickly. I've marked up one of the latest visible shots.
Red: rough location of the center of circulation
Green: the massive outer band seen on the microwave pass USTropics posted
Blue: the partial eyewall feature also seen in the microwave pass
Light blue: a new convective band forming closer to the CoC and partial eyewall
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The green band could help wall off dry air, while the light blue band should help form a complete eyewall and block off more dry air as well. We could see a solid eyewall by tonight and a storm that is truly ready to bomb out.
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#116 Postby StruThiO » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:47 pm

EPac storms seem to be addicted to dry air this year
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#117 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:05 pm

17/1730 UTC 15.0N 104.0W T4.5/4.5 GENEVIEVE
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#118 Postby SconnieCane » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:18 pm

StruThiO wrote:EPac storms seem to be addicted to dry air this year


Where is it coming from? All the way from Africa? Wouldn't it then also be an issue for the expected Atlantic cyclones?
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#119 Postby aspen » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:29 pm

StruThiO wrote:EPac storms seem to be addicted to dry air this year

Seems like Genevieve is doing a decent job at mixing it out. She just needs a solid eyewall, and then a major will be on its way.
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#120 Postby StruThiO » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:33 pm

aspen wrote:
StruThiO wrote:EPac storms seem to be addicted to dry air this year

Seems like Genevieve is doing a decent job at mixing it out. She just needs a solid eyewall, and then a major will be on its way.


Agreed. Still wasn't expecting even a brief hiccup due to dry air though. Very high ceiling nonetheless
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