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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#301 Postby WxEp » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:29 am

WeatherEmperor wrote:UKMET is the blue line. The text output shows "weak" but it has 98L moving WNW towards South Florida. I dont know what intensity it has though

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NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 96 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+ 96 : 20.9N 63.7W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
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1200UTC 22.08.2020 96 20.9N 63.7W 1009 30
0000UTC 23.08.2020 108 22.0N 67.0W 1008 31
1200UTC 23.08.2020 120 23.0N 69.9W 1006 35
0000UTC 24.08.2020 132 24.1N 73.3W 1003 40
1200UTC 24.08.2020 144 25.0N 76.5W 1001 43
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#302 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:30 am

So far the CMC is at least initializing the two systems and showing that rotating around each other.

lets see if the Euro does..

but the HWRF and HMON should do a lot better once the data is ingested.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#303 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:32 am

Aric Dunn wrote:So far the CMC is at least initializing the two systems and showing that rotating around each other.

lets see if the Euro does..

but the HWRF and HMON should do a lot better once the data is ingested.

The western lobe seems to be showing more curved banding on Satellite, kinda interesting.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#304 Postby lsuhurricane » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:34 am

CMC appearing to follow a similar intensity and track to the ICON model. Area just north of Puerto Rico is the sweet spot for shear to relax.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#305 Postby WeatherEmperor » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:41 am

12z Canadian approaching Florida

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#306 Postby WeatherEmperor » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:44 am

Canadian has landfall in upper Keys / lower Miami Dade county

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#307 Postby BobHarlem » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:44 am

WeatherEmperor wrote:12z Canadian approaching Florida

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CMC has a 98L middle Keys landfall, with a simultaneous 97L landfall in Mexico, then 98 keeps going into the gulf.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#308 Postby lsuhurricane » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:44 am

This CMC run will no doubt get the board popping again
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#309 Postby SFLcane » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:45 am

CMC 12z... SFL northern quadrant of possibly a Cat 2.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#310 Postby toad strangler » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:45 am

12z CMC strikes the FL Keys. Classic track right there.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#311 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:49 am

CMC then moves straight toward SELA which is a bit west of recent landfalls on the north Gulf. Legit 970's Cat 2 there.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#312 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:50 am

SFLcane wrote:CMC 12z... SFL northern quadrant of possibly a Cat 2.


Sizable N shift compared to 00z...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#313 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:52 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#314 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:56 am

anything passed 3-5 days stop watching the models, models have struggled all year so make sure u don't model hug!!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#315 Postby lsuhurricane » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:06 pm

From the 12z GFS Ensembles, roughly 15 of the 20 ensemble members bring this to hurricane strength. Results from full recurve all the way to landfall as far west as TX.

Very much in disagreement with its operational run
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#316 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:06 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:anything passed 3-5 days stop watching the models, models have struggled all year so make sure u don't model hug!!

It’s the models thread...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#317 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:07 pm

The 6z HWRF is interesting.. the eastern system eventually weakens but a third weak vort develops along the ITCZ and forces 98L on a brief westerly motion keeping farther south..

given the binary interaction that will play out. I wouldn't rule out the HWRF and HMON since they are made for such mesoscale features.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#318 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:07 pm

lsuhurricane wrote:From the 12z GFS Ensembles, roughly 15 of the 20 ensemble members bring this to hurricane strength. Results from full recurve all the way to landfall as far west as TX.

Very much in disagreement with its operational run


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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#319 Postby AdamFirst » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:07 pm

Why does the GFS stunt development on this?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#320 Postby plasticup » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:08 pm

Counterpoint to the Canadian, GFS brings 98L through the Florida Straights as an open wave:

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