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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#381 Postby Kazmit » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:24 pm

Wow, less than a day of unenthusiastic model runs and people are already cancelling this storm. There are still many days ahead.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#382 Postby aspen » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:27 pm

Kazmit wrote:Wow, less than a day of unenthusiastic model runs and people are already cancelling this storm. There are still many days ahead.

I guess people are buying into the Euro’s surprising lack of anything this run. To be fair, I was quite surprised it went back to being as unenthusiastic as the GFS.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#383 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:29 pm

models been struggling all year, with airlines not as active, data is blah
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#384 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:31 pm

aspen wrote:
Kazmit wrote:Wow, less than a day of unenthusiastic model runs and people are already cancelling this storm. There are still many days ahead.

I guess people are buying into the Euro’s surprising lack of anything this run. To be fair, I was quite surprised it went back to being as unenthusiastic as the GFS.

i wasn't. this is a very complex developmental setup for the models to handle, and in a year that models are missing everything anyways, this was bound to happen at some point.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#385 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:35 pm

chris_fit wrote:Just for fun, here's the NAV

https://i.imgur.com/mI8csTE.gif
nice escape route on that run
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#386 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:47 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#387 Postby EquusStorm » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:55 pm

If we were making definitive decisions off single model runs we'd have evacuated everyone from Texas to Maine with this by now; next run will probably be drastically different until there's something solid to latch onto instead of competing ITCZ swirls
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#388 Postby MississippiWx » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:05 pm

I know models have backed off this run, but I’d encourage people to look at satellite imagery and notice the continued organization of 98L through the day. The models are likely having fits consolidating so much spin into one tropical cyclone.

There is a reason the chances for development went up at 2pm and it has nothing to do with models and everything to do with a favorable environment and continued organization. How soon we forget the GFS and Euro missed a HUGE hurricane in the Gulf as little as one day out from the event this year.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#389 Postby NDG » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:11 pm

One thing for sure, that the weaker it stays over the next 2-3 days while it organizes into one big dominant low pressure area the bigger the threat is for the SE US and GOM giving time for the Bermuda ridge to really take its position and keep pushing it westward.
We could very well see two systems affect the southern US, 97L & 98L almost at the same time, that would be historic.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#390 Postby otowntiger » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:19 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
chris_fit wrote:Just for fun, here's the NAV

https://i.imgur.com/mI8csTE.gif
nice escape route on that run
Yep in that scenario you'd look for the very next frame for a pretty sharp turn north. 8-) :sun:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#391 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:34 pm

Tvcn consensus hits every island before killing it over CUBA

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#392 Postby caneseddy » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:49 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#393 Postby caneseddy » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:51 pm

ICON running now. Will it show a hurricane in S. Florida like 12z run, join GFS/Euro in nit developing or OTS.

We shall find out soon!!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#394 Postby caneseddy » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:18 pm

Big change on the 12z GFS-Para from a wave/TD south of Cuba to a borderline major hurricane into South Florida

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#395 Postby lsuhurricane » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:21 pm

Big change on the 12z GFS-Para from a wave/TD south of Cuba to a hurricane north of Cuba heading to South Florida.


Thats yesterdays run. GFS-Para is only intermittently run
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#396 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:21 pm

ICON at hr 54 about the same.. maybe a 1mb weaker?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#397 Postby caneseddy » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:22 pm

lsuhurricane wrote:
Big change on the 12z GFS-Para from a wave/TD south of Cuba to a hurricane north of Cuba heading to South Florida.


Thats yesterdays run. GFS-Para is only intermittently run


My mistake...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#398 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:23 pm

caneseddy wrote:Big change on the 12z GFS-Para from a wave/TD south of Cuba to a borderline major hurricane into South Florida

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfsp&region=watl&pkg=mslp_pcpn&runtime=2020081712&fh=168


Panhandle gets a cane and the 2nd one goes Irma style up the gut from the keys
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#399 Postby SFLcane » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:24 pm

caneseddy wrote:Big change on the 12z GFS-Para from a wave/TD south of Cuba to a borderline major hurricane into South Florida

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfsp&region=watl&pkg=mslp_pcpn&runtime=2020081712&fh=168


Irma 2.0
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#400 Postby sma10 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:24 pm

18z ICON staying consistent in development north of islands. Still in UK / CMC camp
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