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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#881 Postby ConvergenceZone » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:23 pm

sma10 wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:So many people worship the GFS and EURO, it’s actually quite comical... No matter how many times they are wrong during this season, they will keep worshiping them


What's not to love? They've had a stellar summer


lol. Nice sarcasm
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#882 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:24 pm

caneseddy wrote:Wasn’t the GFS predicting a huge blow up in the EPAC with majors everywhere and nothing would form in the Atlantic? What happened there? Only Genevieve made it to major

Seriously, as many pro Mets have said today, it maybe better to look at the ensembles rather than the deterministic models at this time and the ensembles are much more bullish on 98l

there was even a point where the epac had 0 storms and the natl had 2 during the "outbreak"
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#883 Postby Cat5James » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:31 pm

18Z HMON appears to have initialized too far south.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#884 Postby tiger_deF » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:32 pm

It just seems hard to believe that something, anything doesn't develop from 98L with the sheer amount of spin and convection it has been able to produce
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#885 Postby stormlover2013 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:35 pm

Gfs is really doing well or it sucks bad lol
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#886 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:37 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:Gfs is really doing well or it sucks bad lol

50/50. Most would agree it sucks right now. But every blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#887 Postby ConvergenceZone » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:38 pm

Let’s just put it this way, if by tomorrow at this time we don’t have a Depression/Storm and it still looks like a mess, I’ll be the first to give the GFS/EURO Kudos!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#888 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:40 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:Let’s just put it this way, if by tomorrow at this time we don’t have a Depression/Storm and it still looks like a mess, I’ll be the first to give the GFS/EURO Kudos!

Seems fair!

Then of course people like me will begin to question the favorability of this season. :lol:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#889 Postby NDG » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:47 pm

gatorcane wrote:Not much rain even for South Florida if the 18Z GFS verifies. I am sure the 18Z HWRF and HMON will show a CAT 5 into South Florida :roll: They are a bit better if we have a storm with a well-defined center already.

https://i.postimg.cc/1zdhDRbc/gfs-apcpn24-seus-18.png


You can thank that to the Bermuda Ridge shown on the 18z GFS run that most times acts to protect the FL Peninsula, especially central FL.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#890 Postby DestinHurricane » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:50 pm

@cp79 NHC>any model. NHC says GFS/Euro won't verify.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#891 Postby NDG » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:53 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:Let’s just put it this way, if by tomorrow at this time we don’t have a Depression/Storm and it still looks like a mess, I’ll be the first to give the GFS/EURO Kudos!

Seems fair!

Then of course people like me will begin to question the favorability of this season. :lol:


For the last few days I have been saying that it would not surprise me if 98L would not develop until it gets closer to the Lesser Antilles.
2017 went through this also, no strong hurricane developed east of the Lesser Antilles until the dust settled down after the 1st of September.
The majority of latest Euro ensembles & GFS ensembles are still developing 98L at some point.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#892 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:03 pm

DestinHurricane wrote:@cp79 NHC>any model. NHC says GFS/Euro won't verify.


What does this mean?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#893 Postby CFLHurricane » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:04 pm

Blown Away wrote:
DestinHurricane wrote:@cp79 NHC>any model. NHC says GFS/Euro won't verify.


What does this mean?


This means the experienced meteorologists at the NHC are superior forecasters to a non-sentient computer model.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#894 Postby DestinHurricane » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:05 pm

CFLHurricane wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
DestinHurricane wrote:@cp79 NHC>any model. NHC says GFS/Euro won't verify.


What does this mean?


This means the experienced meteorologists at the NHC are superior forecasters to a non-sentient computer model.


Exactly this. Never bet against the NHC. Some people are GFS huggers, some are "King" Euro huggers, I'm a NHC hugger.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#895 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:07 pm

18z HWRF still early appears further north.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#896 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:11 pm

18z HWRF 57 hrs... Decent N shift and may skim big islands instead of down the middle... I believe TVCN is affected by HWRF...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#897 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:17 pm

Blown Away wrote:18z HWRF 57 hrs... Decent N shift and may skim big islands instead of down the middle... I believe TVCN is affected by HWRF...


Will pass north of PR on this run. Shift north no doubt
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#898 Postby ConvergenceZone » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:22 pm

CFLHurricane wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
DestinHurricane wrote:@cp79 NHC>any model. NHC says GFS/Euro won't verify.


What does this mean?


This means the experienced meteorologists at the NHC are superior forecasters to a non-sentient computer model.


Exactly. And a model is only as good as the data given to it, and that data isn’t always going to be reliable
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#899 Postby toad strangler » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:22 pm

HWRF clears PR to the N by a substantial margin @18z
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#900 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:23 pm

Oh boy HWRF... big shift north
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