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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2241 Postby Frank P » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:42 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
gqhebert wrote:HMON 130kt cane heading towards Galveston

18z HMON hour 105:
https://i.imgur.com/4XdWbFX.png

And that is a HUGH shift north and east up the coast for the HMON..... last run took it to the Brownsville area ..... crazy
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2242 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:43 pm

BigB0882 wrote:
gqhebert wrote:HMON 130kt cane heading towards Galveston


That’s a big east shift for the HMON, right? Wasn’t it near the Tex/Mex border last run?

HMON trend:
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2243 Postby txag2005 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:43 pm

The hmon has been all over the place.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2244 Postby Beef Stew » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:43 pm

Despite the added land interaction in this run, the difference in pressure and windspeed by the time Laura arrives in the Northern Gulf seems to be negligible. If the HWRF is right, Laura won't need but 40 hours over water regardless of interaction with the GA's to become a formidable major.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2245 Postby BigB0882 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:44 pm

People in SETX better pray that HMON is wrong. Is that a Cat 5? Will be very curious to see if it shifts east again at 00z. Could this become the HMON vs HWRF battle? I remember the good ole days of GFS vs. Euro.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2246 Postby SoupBone » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:44 pm

Frank P wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:
gqhebert wrote:HMON 130kt cane heading towards Galveston

18z HMON hour 105:
https://i.imgur.com/4XdWbFX.png

And that is a HUGH shift north up the coast for the HMON..... last run took it to the Brownsville area ..... crazy



Last run, yes, but last nights (I think 18Z) had pretty much that solution. It's really been all over the place.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2247 Postby txag2005 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:45 pm

BigB0882 wrote:People in SETX better pray that HMON is wrong. Is that a Cat 5? Will be very curious to see if it shifts east again at 00z. Could this become the HMON vs HWRF battle? I remember the good ole days of GFS vs. Euro.


The hmon has been up and down the Texas coast since 0z.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2248 Postby HurricaneEdouard » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:46 pm

Kingarabian wrote:18z HMON hour 111:
https://i.imgur.com/6Wh5z7E.png

Bruh..

HMON is essentially showing a repeat of the Galveston Hurricane of 1900.
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HWRF is showing a more westward Hurricane Frederic (1979).

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2249 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:46 pm

18z GFS hours 93-99:
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2250 Postby Beef Stew » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:47 pm

HuMONgous margin of error...
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2251 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:48 pm

18z HMON hour 114 landfall.

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Ignore the 111kt wind estimate. This would be a high end cat.4 landfall with that pressure.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2252 Postby shiny-pebble » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:50 pm

Not sure which thread this would best fit but,

FWIW, the HWRF has a huge convective burst 6 hours from now near the (new/forming?) center, and it looks like it may be verifying pretty well;ImageImage

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2253 Postby MississippiWx » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:51 pm

Talk about windshield wipers.

These models are struggling with the land interaction. I think the main point to take home is the constant bombing out of the storm by virtually every model once in the Gulf. Someone could be in for a rough time.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2254 Postby SoupBone » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:51 pm

For reference, this was the 18Z HMON for last night (8/21)

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2255 Postby Nederlander » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:52 pm

Kingarabian wrote:18z HMON hour 114 landfall.

https://i.imgur.com/WV4MnKn.png

Ignore the 111kt wind estimate. This would be a high end cat.4 landfall with that pressure.


That pretty much would put me right in the eastern eyewall. No thanks! Not liking this 18z trend in the models.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2256 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:52 pm

18z Euro rolling.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2257 Postby Michele B » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:55 pm

Kingarabian wrote:18z GFS hours 93-99:
https://i.imgur.com/rQ4EmLv.gif


933??? SERIOUSLY?!?!?!

Isn't that a bit TOO aggressive?!?!?!
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2258 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:55 pm

Michele B wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:18z GFS hours 93-99:
https://i.imgur.com/rQ4EmLv.gif


933??? SERIOUSLY?!?!?!

Isn't that a bit TOO aggressive?!?!?!

It's the GOM and its high OHC so it's unfortunately believable.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2259 Postby Beef Stew » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:57 pm

MississippiWx wrote:Talk about windshield wipers.

These models are struggling with the land interaction. I think the main point to take home is the constant bombing out of the storm by virtually every model once in the Gulf. Someone could be in for a rough time.


Exactly. We finally saw the HWRF take it over the DR and Cuba this run, and the result was still another sub 940 cat 4. Something has to be said for the fact that multiple models are seeing an environment in the N. GOM that is conductive for RI once Laura gets there.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2260 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:57 pm

Kingarabian wrote:18z Euro rolling.

Through hour 24 its a 994mb landfall over Cuba. Much stronger than the 12z so far. Relatively same track with about the same amount of land interaction through 36 hours.
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