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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3741 Postby Rail Dawg » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:10 pm

This video was shot by a guy next to me during Michael. Not even the highest gusts and no "Fists of God". That is my squeaky voice commenting in the background lol.

Crank the volume.

[Youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6zGEMMMjws&t=172s[/Youtube]
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3742 Postby lrak » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:11 pm

cfisher wrote:There might be a battle going on between the meso to the north of Cuba and the one to the south. The convection is stronger in the south meso, so I would learn toward that one becoming the dominant feature.


It looks like the convection between the two can't figure which way to go.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3743 Postby Blow_Hard » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:14 pm

Rail Dawg wrote:This video was shot by a guy next to me during Michael. Not even the highest gusts and no "Fists of God". That is my squeaky voice commenting in the background lol.

Crank the volume.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6zGEMMMjws&t=172s



Hey Rail Dawg...was that on Hwy 98 between Tyndall AFB and Mexico Beach?
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#3744 Postby cfisher » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:16 pm

lrak wrote:
cfisher wrote:There might be a battle going on between the meso to the north of Cuba and the one to the south. The convection is stronger in the south meso, so I would learn toward that one becoming the dominant feature.


It looks like the convection between the two can't figure which way to go.

Yup. This has happened a few times with Laura and she has always picked the more the S and W feature.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3745 Postby Rail Dawg » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:17 pm

Blow_Hard wrote:
Rail Dawg wrote:This video was shot by a guy next to me during Michael. Not even the highest gusts and no "Fists of God". That is my squeaky voice commenting in the background lol.

Crank the volume.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6zGEMMMjws&t=172s



Hey Rail Dawg...was that on Hwy 98 between Tyndall AFB and Mexico Beach?


Good question.

That was in a parking lot garage in Panama City. About 5 miles from the eye. Had I gone for the eye I would have lost my truck to the surge.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3746 Postby Hurrilurker » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:22 pm

lrak wrote:
cfisher wrote:There might be a battle going on between the meso to the north of Cuba and the one to the south. The convection is stronger in the south meso, so I would learn toward that one becoming the dominant feature.


It looks like the convection between the two can't figure which way to go.

Given the way 2020 is going, I won’t be surprised when they split off into 2 Cat-5s.
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#3747 Postby cfisher » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:25 pm

Southern MLC starting to look real nasty... much more so than the northern MLC
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3748 Postby lrak » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:25 pm

I can't remember seeing an IR satellite loop like the current one. I "know" but it really looks like two totally separate storms without the visible satellite... :double: I'm stating a "claim" Trippie 8-)
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3749 Postby Rail Dawg » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:26 pm

Hurrilurker wrote:Given the way 2020 is going, I won’t be surprised when they split off into 2 Cat-5s.


That got me smiling.

No kidding it would be par for the course!

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3750 Postby Argcane » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:26 pm

Hi everyone! I just signed in but been lurking the boards from a long time ago. I'm from Argentina and since we're at the end of winter, I thought that following the tropics would be much more fun. :cheesy:
Ps. I've never been through a hurricane and I can't fathom how stressful this situation must be for those who are in Laura's path. I hope that everyone's taking it seriously, though.
With that being said, I'll stick round and hopefully will continue learning from y'all.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3751 Postby NDG » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:26 pm

There it is.

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3752 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:27 pm

and it has reformed under the the MLC. no more land in the way .. finally some good reliable models runs.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3753 Postby Blow_Hard » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:28 pm

Rail Dawg wrote:
Blow_Hard wrote:
Rail Dawg wrote:This video was shot by a guy next to me during Michael. Not even the highest gusts and no "Fists of God". That is my squeaky voice commenting in the background lol.

Crank the volume.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6zGEMMMjws&t=172s



Hey Rail Dawg...was that on Hwy 98 between Tyndall AFB and Mexico Beach?


Good question., m

That was in a parking lot garage in Panama City. About 5 miles from the eye. Had I gone for the eye I would have lost my truck to the surge.



Gotcha...that looks like the Garage at First Baptist Church downtown and yes, you were probably no more than 5 miles from the eye. The western edge of the eye came across Callaway. I was just north of you by about 5 miles right off Highway 231 just right up the road from where the rail cars were blown off the tracks.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3754 Postby patgaz » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:28 pm

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lrak wrote:
cfisher wrote:There might be a battle going on between the meso to the north of Cuba and the one to the south. The convection is stronger in the south meso, so I would learn toward that one becoming the dominant feature.


It looks like the convection between the two can't figure which way to go.

Given the way 2020 is going, I won’t be surprised when they split off into 2 Cat-5s.


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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3755 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:30 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:and it has reformed under the the MLC. no more land in the way .. finally some good reliable models runs.

It should cut down on the center reformation issues at least. I saw earlier that one of the recon planes was observing a stronger high pressure across the gulf than many of the models are currently depicting. Do we know if any of that data will be incorporated into tonight's 00z runs?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3756 Postby HoustonFrog » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:31 pm

So what time (central) are next models? Debating whether to stay up
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3757 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:32 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:and it has reformed under the the MLC. no more land in the way .. finally some good reliable models runs.

It should cut down on the center reformation issues at least. I saw earlier that one of the recon planes was observing a stronger high pressure across the gulf than many of the models are currently depicting. Do we know if any of that data will be incorporated into tonight's 00z runs?


Any recon data at this point will most likely be in the 06z runs.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3758 Postby Ubuntwo » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:33 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:and it has reformed under the the MLC. no more land in the way .. finally some good reliable models runs.

It should cut down on the center reformation issues at least. I saw earlier that one of the recon planes was observing a stronger high pressure across the gulf than many of the models are currently depicting. Do we know if any of that data will be incorporated into tonight's 00z runs?

Data of a stronger ridge should make it into the 0z runs, yeah.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3759 Postby got ants? » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:34 pm

Rail Dawg, I haven't experienced "fists of god" in person, but seen its aftermath. Truly scary because you think, okay, I might lose my roof, no big deal..but its more than that.

There was a boat dealer hit during Andrew, and you could literally see a bomb hole from destruction. They also had a 3 story concrete building. And there were boats on the toof.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3760 Postby storm_in_a_teacup » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:36 pm

Rail Dawg wrote:Guys and gals I went through the 185mph gusts of Michael. This is not a boast. This is me telling all of you that video in NO WAY captures just how powerful that wind is.

I was standing literally 20 feet from those winds hunkered down in a parking lot garage. Completely safe and not fearful at all. But holy cow you can NOT believe how devastating that wind is up close and personal.

I will share a story I have posted here before... a couple years ago. Again I have chased 14 hurricanes but it was during Irma (145 mph gusts) and Michael (185 mph gusts) that I discovered a phenomenon that answered a question I had for three decades. Why does one house get smashed but the house next to it survive relatively intact?

At the height of the hurricane you will hear what sounds like an F-18 fighter jet screaming above you at 1000 feet. Count about 10 seconds and suddenly what I call the "Fist of God" lowers out of the sky. It is about the size of a house and it contains more water than anything else around it. This Fist of God is your 185 mph gust. It is incredible to watch because it lowers to the ground and smashes to pieces anything in front of it. Brick buildings. Houses. 300-year-old oak trees. That is why one house gets smashed and the next one does not.

If you watch a video of Michael turn your volume up to max blast. Turn the bass all the way up. And then listen. You will get the first inkling just how powerful these winds can get. I'm telling you straight up it is unbelievable standing next to that power. It is as close as you can get to a tornado and live to tell the story.

Thanks for listening. This stuff fascinates me. People who say they are going to ride out a Cat 4 in a wooden home have no idea the terror they will be facing.


Does footage of these "fists of God" exist anywhere?
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