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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#3821 Postby dantonlsu » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:53 pm

Where is the 18z? Could only find the 12z
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#3822 Postby Nuno » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:55 pm

Kingarabian wrote:18z ICON landfall in case it wasn't posted:
https://i.imgur.com/O8qNQiV.png


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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#3823 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:01 pm

GFS 18Z landfall
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#3826 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:07 pm

tolakram wrote:GFS 18Z landfall
https://i.imgur.com/fJrV1bp.png

Thank you. Yeah that is east of the Euro and UKMET.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#3827 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:10 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
tolakram wrote:GFS 18Z landfall
https://i.imgur.com/fJrV1bp.png

Thank you. Yeah that is east of the Euro and UKMET.


Decent E shift in GFS 18z vs 12z. Maybe 25-35 miles at landfall.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#3828 Postby Socalhurcnegirl227 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:14 pm

Blown Away wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:
tolakram wrote:GFS 18Z landfall
https://i.imgur.com/fJrV1bp.png

Thank you. Yeah that is east of the Euro and UKMET.


Decent E shift in GFS 18z vs 12z. Maybe 25-35 miles at landfall.

Any chance the models keep trending east or is this just more windshield wiper estimations?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#3829 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:18 pm

Socalhurcnegirl227 wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:Thank you. Yeah that is east of the Euro and UKMET.


Decent E shift in GFS 18z vs 12z. Maybe 25-35 miles at landfall.

Any chance the models keep trending east or is this just more windshield wiper estimations?


Anything always possible, but odds heavily favor the EURO/GFS solutions inside of @36 hours with probably an error up to @50 miles from those solutions. JMHO
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#3830 Postby PTrackerLA » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:21 pm

18z GFS 3 run trend. Eastern core is inching closer to me in Lafayette, going to be a close call.

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#3831 Postby cheezyWXguy » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:30 pm

I haven’t checked, but one thing that needs to be accounted for is the strength of the trough, and how it evolves compared to the models. Landfall is coming up, so margin of error is lower, but gfs has a tendency to overdo troughs and could be overdoing the weakness. On the other hand, the euro has the opposite bias and could be underdoing it.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#3832 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:35 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:I haven’t checked, but one thing that needs to be accounted for is the strength of the trough, and how it evolves compared to the models. Landfall is coming up, so margin of error is lower, but gfs has a tendency to overdo troughs and could be overdoing the weakness. On the other hand, the euro has the opposite bias and could be underdoing it.


The middle is where the NHC has their track. 8-)
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#3833 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:37 pm

East shift incoming from the HMON? It appears to be slightly N of its 12z run at 24 hours.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#3834 Postby cheezyWXguy » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:41 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:East shift incoming from the HMON? It appears to be slightly N of its 12z run at 24 hours.

Probably. Initialized at 989mb, which may be too weak. I believe it and HWRF feed off of GFS data, so it wouldnt surprise me to see an east shift with them as well.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#3835 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:47 pm

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#3836 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:48 pm

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#3837 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:52 pm

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#3838 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:56 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:I haven’t checked, but one thing that needs to be accounted for is the strength of the trough, and how it evolves compared to the models. Landfall is coming up, so margin of error is lower, but gfs has a tendency to overdo troughs and could be overdoing the weakness. On the other hand, the euro has the opposite bias and could be underdoing it.


It does. But this is a different situation than a trough passing by to the north that might pick up a system or what the pressure pattern in the Western Atlantic might be when a storm is to its east. If you look at the WV of the US, the northern trough moving toward the coast in New England is already past Laura with a large ridge moving in across the country arc'ing all the way into Canada. The trough across Texas which was what kept Marco weak (I think a Rosby Wave in this case) is splitting off down in the Baja. SW flow around the east side is helping create the anticyclonic pattern over the Gulf.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/sat ... uct=wv-mid

To me, the question marks are how much push does the Atlantic high have to keep it south and west vs. any possible escape routes between the pressure entities farther north. Models think there will be enough push and then probably a midlevel high to the north that will help get Laura to 93/94North before it turns up with the flow. Models have all shown a strong push, but this isn't one of those cases with a massive blocking high and push that just moves a storm across the Gulf into Mexico.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#3839 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:00 pm

HWRF is looking like a midnight landfall tomorrow. Anxiety has to be running high for people in the region.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 2518&fh=33
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#3840 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:02 pm

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